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To: metmom
Besides, if the woman in Revelation was Mary, then who are the other offspring of hers that Satan is off to war against?

The claim that Mary has other children does not disprove the Perpetual Virginity. It is the Catholic position that she is the Mother of all Christians. What would either disprove this woman is Mary or the Perpetual Virginity is a description that she bore the children from her womb. This passage only describes one child as being born of her womb.

There is no such thing as the immaculate conception.

Do you have evidence? Keep in mind Mary is already special; she had a virgin birth.
687 posted on 09/28/2014 8:09:19 PM PDT by ronnietherocket3 (Mary is understood by the heart, not study of scripture.)
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To: ronnietherocket3
Do you have evidence? Keep in mind Mary is already special; she had a virgin birth.

Mary said God was her savior. Only sinners need a savior.

If she was sinless, then she didn't need a savior, so she would have been lying in calling God her savior, which just ended the sinless streak.

Sure. Mary had a virgin birth. OK. There's Scripture to back that up, and plenty of it.

How is that connected to her supposedly being immaculately conceived?

699 posted on 09/28/2014 8:21:09 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ronnietherocket3
Do you have evidence? Keep in mind Mary is already special; she had a virgin birth.

In the light of how the Holy Spirit reveals even lesser exceptions to the norm or even lesser subjects, the evidence against the IM and PV is the absence of any testimony or need for it, which certainly excludes it as worthy of required assent.

742 posted on 09/28/2014 9:19:51 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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