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To: dangus; Iscool
Most of what Evangelical Christians mean by “savior” (one who prevents destruction) is actually alternately worded “restorer” (one who makes new again after partial destruction).

Where did you come up with that bit of misinformation?

That is not true at all.

When Evangelical Christians say *savior* they mean *savior*, one who saves. Not a restorer, or rehabilitator or a renovator.

We don't need something to fix something that's partly broken. We need something that rescues us completely from total destruction.

We're not the ones who think that we're good enough that adding our good works to faith will result in salvation.

That's the territory of Catholics.

Anyone who thinks that way really would be better suited with a works based religion like Catholicism, rather than a faith based saving relationship with God through Jesus Christ.I don't know an Evangelical Christian who isn't aware of their totally depravity, that in our heart dwells no good thing and that no man can come to Jesus unless the Holy Spirit draws him.

69 posted on 10/02/2014 6:54:33 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

In this very context, the person I was responding to was suggesting that the fact that Mary needed a savior meant she had fallen. I was arguing that no restoration was needed. If you don’t believe that Mary had fallen, great!


71 posted on 10/02/2014 7:12:21 PM PDT by dangus
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