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To: Springfield Reformer

Where does it say in the bible that we should disregard those who according to John 3:16 in the KJV “shall not perish and have everlasting life?”

Where is this prohibition, especially when it emulates the servants at Cana and Jesus at the Transfiguration?


738 posted on 10/06/2014 7:19:29 PM PDT by rwilson99 (Please tell me how the words "shall not perish and have everlasting life" would NOT apply to Mary.)
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To: rwilson99
Where does it say in the bible that we should disregard those who according to John 3:16 in the KJV “shall not perish and have everlasting life?”

Where is this prohibition, especially when it emulates the servants at Cana and Jesus at the Transfiguration?


I can't disregard what God has explicitly said about not communicating with those who have passed on. The burden is on you, not me, to show the prohibition is lifted.

Besides, by refusing this temptation, I do not disregard those who have gone on to their reward as servants of Jesus. I honor them. Among them are my father, mother, brother, and sister after the flesh, and many others also, who were my faithful Sunday school teachers, mentors and friends. I love those godly people, and I can tell you of a truth the very last thing any of them would want me to do is try to contact them in flagrant disobedience to God.  There is a time for everything. We had our time together while they were here, and we will be together again one day, and have all time and eternity to talk.  I can be patient. It will be worth the wait.

As for Cana and the Transfiguration,  there is nothing to emulate. We have already covered most of this, so I am restating it just to make sure I have been clear.

1) No one at Cana was dead, or had died and gone to heaven, with whom any living person communicated. Without that, you have nothing remotely like the sin of trying to communicate with the dead.

2) The Transfiguration has been adequately covered.  Show me any word any disciple spoke TO Moses or Elijah. Crickets? I thought so. And please do not try to draw me into emulating the prerogatives that belong to God alone. God can speak with anyone or anything He wishes. I am not God, and never will be. To suggest I can pick up and do anything He has ever done is outrageous, and doubtless a violation of fundamental Christian truth.  He is Creator.  I am creature.  My duty is to obey Him, not to play at being God and call it emulation.

Peace,

SR
759 posted on 10/06/2014 9:03:36 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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