et; (may we call you ET?)
No layers?
Too funny.
Just look at all the shadings in the links I provided, paying attention to the over-wrapping "layer" in the Vatican link, then consider the little mini lecture I received in the comment immediately below you own...which begins with the view that I am conflating authority and infallibility-- as if there is no overlap to those?
Who's to say where 'conflating' begins...when the descriptions can often be rather fluid.
then consider the little mini lecture I received in the comment immediately below you own...which begins with the view that I am conflating authority and infallibility-- as if there is no overlap to those?
I hardly see how possible overlap between infallibility and authority has any bearing on anything. What I am pointing out is that you took portions of an audience which were concerned with papal authority and then posited those quotes as some sort of definition of infallibility specifically. In this way you most certainly did conflate two separate ideas within Catholic dogma, as well as two separate ideas discussed by the speaker you quoted. It is a simple fact that, within the Catholic faith, popes are always authoritative, but are not always infallible. Whether or not the ideas are related, or even overlap, is not relevant. I can talk all I want about how much math and music are related and overlap, but that doesn't mean that I can take quotes by Mozart and imply that he was arguing about algebra.