Posted on 10/19/2014 1:39:59 PM PDT by ebb tide
"For Francis, a resounding defeat: Traditionalists have won a huge victory." | "Even in 2015, it's hard for Francis to go much beyond this without risking schism."
An additional point concerns Cardinal Burke, this exemplary servant of the Church. He has been nothing if not humble, accepting all humiliations patiently. The way he has been treated by Francis is embarrassing for the pope, not for him. Consider how different John Paul II and Benedict XVI were with outright dissenters, such as the anti-African German cardinal Walter Kasper, and many others of a similar vein, who were never humiliated and threatened of demotion and exile, despite their position -- quite the opposite. This was not because these popes were "soft", but because they fought for the unity of the Church.
I don’t think I like a “cunning” Pope!! He scares me.
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Would that it were so! I am afraid at best we’ve only repulsed the first wave. The modernists are regrouping for a another assault (IMHO of course.)
I like your tagline. I pray it often.
it has to be about money and members....the Pope must think if we act and preach like Protestants than we'll get more members....I doubt it though....
Hallelujah.
Boy do we ever need it!
Wouldn’t it be a swell idea if it were prayed after every mass throughout the world …
(at least we still do this in my (FSSP) parish.)
Which protestant denomination has benefited from taking such a position? This really has nothing to do with traditionalists or modernists. Rather it is about those who wish to follow Christ and those who do not.
The Holy See's 26 September 1964 Instruction Inter Oecumenici, which came into force on 7 March 1965, simply declared: "The Leonine Prayers are suppressed."
I’m a Christian, and no church I’ve ever gone to had spoken in favour of homosexuality or anything like it. It’s quite the opposite actually. The messages I here aren’t popular or politically correct. It’s simply from the word of God. His word is clear on these issues and many others.
I have had multiple Catholics here tell me that the Pope is NOT a liberal, but only being taken out of context by the liberal media etc because it`s what they want.
So the Pope is not a lib? Seems to me if he`s not a lib and is only having his words twisted to make him appear that way, he could very easily set the record straight.
Wow, that is fascinating. I had no idea that the Leonine prayers were suppressed BEFORE THE COUNCIL WAS EVEN OVER! I had assumed that that had come with the Novus Ordo in 1970.
I guess no further explanation was necessary since it was clear that Evil had been defeated in the 1960s. /sarc
BTW I presume you mean “FRANCIS beatified” not “BENEDICT beatified”.
You’re, of course, absolutely right. At this point, anyone who doesn’t think he’s a liberal has his head buried in the sand. Yes, the media has played a role in creating the popular perception of his liberalism, but that wouldn’t be possible without all of his words and deeds that he supplies that are consistent with that perception.
The old-time Protestant denominations in the U.S. that have gone soft on women's lib, gay "rights", abortion and various other apostacies are the ones that have been bleeding members, closing buildings and selling off properties (Episcopal Church USA, United Methodist Church, Presbyterian Church USA, Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, etc.). However, the conservative churches like the Baptists, Lutheran-Missouri Synod, various Pentecostal sects and the many evangelical churches in the U.S. that hold to the Bible and the natural family and do not go in for the Marxist agenda have been picking up members. They are where the growth is.
Just so you know... it ain't working for the Protties, so hold the line and don't let your bishops go soft. The Protestant churches in Europe are almost empty. Many of their historic church buildings are little but museums.
Naturally Satan has been actively infiltrating church heirarchies with feminists, communists, homosexualists, and money from one-world secularists, financial barons and Islamists to try to destroy from within. A group of feminists and Jesuits whose organization received funding from such secular foundations such as the Ford Foundation, Buffett Foundation, MacArthur Foundation, Rockefeller Foundation, and the Playboy Foundation even sent some priests to Teddy Kennedy back in the 70s to change his position from pro-life to pro-abortion. It's been going on for too long, and all Christians must repel heresy and those who bring it. Do not be fooled by the Deceiver.
Hi, Annie! Thought I’d pop in and wish you a nice weekend!
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