God nath NOT cast away his (Jewish) people 9omans 11:1,2).... All Israel will be saved... Romans 11:26.
Respectfully,
fhc
1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Willie is correct. There is no salvation for the Jews outside of Jesus Christ. They have no “mechanism for salvation,” even if they reestablish their temple and start slaughtering animals.
The only point of real debate that can be had is whether or not the Jews will be regathered at some point and converted in mass. That they are now, if unconverted, totally damned, cannot be questioned.
The is both “the Church” and “Israel” seen in Revelation.
God and Abram made a covenant. Only God walked the convenient, not Abram (he was put to sleep). This is illustrative of God’s dealing with Israel.
For example, Israel is Asleep (they are asleep now, until the events in Revelation).
Also, Abram did NOTHING. Usually in a semitic covenant, BOTH parties walked between the halts of the animals....In the case of the Abramic covenant, God did it all. Just as the fulfillment of God’s covenant does NOT deepend on the actions of the Jews!
Just like Christians’ salvation is NOT dependent on OUR actions, but our Faith!
You can complain all you want about how the Jews have not listened to God. He know who he was choosing. He chose a stiff-necked people. They have used their stubbornness to not change ONE JOT or TITLE in the Word of God! If only we Christians with our “bible translations of the week” would do so.
No, We are all saved by Grace, through Faith. Abram was, Moses, were all Jews and the modern Jews will be saved through JESUS (there is only one way).
I would suggest you ask Jesus why he saved the Jews that have been saved and will be saved....We should NOT read scriptures and interpret them and pronounce people damned or saved....That is judging!
Abram looked forward with Faith to the Redeemer. No, he did not have our advantage of knowing his name, but that is not what saves.....
I would say that God put them on the shelf for future use and future glory.
Now is the grace age and the gentiles time.
The Salvation of All Israel At the climax of Paul’s discussion in Rom 9-11 he makes an astonishing claim: “[A]ll Israel will be saved” (Rom 11:26). What he means by this has been the subject of considerable debate. Two questions, crucial both to the meaning of this verse and to the whole discussion of Rom 9-11, must be examined: Who is “all Israel”? and How is all Israel “saved”?
WHO IS ALL ISRAEL?
Several answers are given to this question today. According to some, Paul is talking about spiritual Israel, that is, Church made up of Jews and Gentiles converted to Christianity. According to others, Paul envisions the salvation of ethnic Jews, either from every generation or from the last generation of history. It is more likely, however, that “all Israel” is a reference to ethnic Israel, that is, the assembly of faithful Israelites from all twelve tribes down through the ages. In other words, Paul is thinking of the whole nation of covenant people descended from the twelve sons of the patriarch Jacob (renamed Israel, Gen 32:28). Several considerations weigh in favor of this third alternative. 1. Romans 9-11 is dominated by the terms “Israel” (eleven times) and “Israelite” (two times). This is in marked contrast to Rom 1-8, where Paul speaks only of “Jews” (nine times). The shift from using “Jews” exclusively to using “Israel” and “Israelite” almost exclusively points to a subtle but significant distinction between these terms. The distinction originated when the tribes of Israel split into two kingdoms after the reign of Solomon (1 Kings 12). Ten tribes from the north broke away and formed the “house of Israel”, while the two southern tribes of Judah and Benjamin became the “house of Judah”. Over the next several centuries, the northern tribes and then the southern tribes were forcedinto exile, and most of them never returned. The small remnant that eventually returned from Babylonian captivity and resettled in Palestine in the sixth century B.C. became known as “Jews”, taking their name from the dominant tribe (Judah) and occupying the land around Jerusalem in the south (Judea). By Paul’s day, the term “Jew” was used more broadly to mean someone who followed the Mosaic religion of Judaism and looked to the Temple of Jerusalem as the focal point of spiritual life, regardless of whether he lived in Judea or abroad. Most religious Jews traced their lineage to the tribes of Judah, Benjamin,and Levi. It seems, then, that when Paul begins talking about “Israel” in Rom 9-11, he is shifting to a larger historical perspective that stretches beyond the compass of “Jews” and evokes memories of “all Israel” as a national family of twelve tribes (Deut 27:9; Josh 3:17; 2 Sam 5:5; 1 Chron 9:1; Ezra 6:17; Tob 1:4-6, etc.). Paul seems aware, in other words, that the classical notion of “Israel” is more inclusive and far-reaching than the contemporary notion of “Jews”. 2. As Paul develops his argument in Rom 9-11, he draws from passages of the Old Testament that promise salvation for all the tribes Israel. Tribes from the Northern Kingdom of Israel are in view in several passages (e.g., Is 10:22-23 at Rom 9:27-28, and 1 Kings 19:10 at Rom 11:4), and tribes from the Southern Kingdom of Judah are in view in others (Is 1:9 at Rom 9:29, and Joel 2:32 at Rom 10:13). 3. When Paul describes himself as an “Israelite” in Rom 11:1, he does so with explicit reference to his tribal affiliation (the tribe of Benjamin). 4. Paul’s hope for the salvation of “all Israel” is in line with the prophetic hopes of the Old Testament, where the spiritual restoration of all twelve tribes, after centuriesof division and exile among the Gentiles, is one of the towering expectations for the messianic age (Sir 36:11; 48:10; Is 11:11-12; 49:6; Jer 3:18; 50:17-20; Ezek 37:15-28; 48:1-35; Zech 8:13, etc.). The same hope for a restoration of the twelve tribes is expressed in ancient Jewish sources outside the Bible (e.g., 4 Ezra 13:39-48; Psalms of Solomon 17:28, 44; Testament of Benjamin 9:2; 10:11; 2 Baruch 78:4-7).
HOW IS ALL ISRAEL SAVED?
At least two different views of how Israel comes to salvation are current today. 1. The two-covenant view, developed in modern times, holds that Israel will be saved apart from Christ and apart from any acceptance of the gospel. In other words, proponents of this view envision a bi-covenantal arrangement where the Mosaic covenant continues in force alongside the New Covenant, with the former intended to save the Jews and the latter to save the Gentiles. In support, advocates contend that “Christ” is never explicitly mentioned in Romans 11, that “the Deliverer” foretold by Isaiah refers to Yahweh rather than the Messiah (Is 59:20 cited in Rom 11:26), and that the “covenant” of forgiveness mentioned by Isaiah is the Mosaic covenant rather than the New Covenant (Is 27:9, alluded to in Rom 11:27). 2. The New Covenant view, held by the vast majority of interpreters through the ages, holds that Israel will be saved by the grace of Jesus Christ. This second view is far more probable than the first, as it alone is consistent with the immediate context of Rom 9-11 and the wider context of Paul’s theology and writings. In point of fact, the bi-covenantal view collides with the whole message of Romans, namely, that the gospel of Jesus Christ brings “salvation” to Jews and Gentiles alike (Rom 1:16), that one must confess faith in Jesus to be “saved” (Rom 10:9), and that Paul thinks of his missionary efforts among the Gentiles as a means to “save” his Israelite kinsmen (Rom 11:14). There is every reason to suppose, moreover, that Paul is thinking of Christ and the New Covenant when he quotes the words of Isaiah in Rom 11:26-27. For Paul, the risen Jesus is our Deliverer (1 Thess 1:10) and the one who takes away sin through the sacraments of the New Covenant (Rom 6:1-11). By contrast, the Mosaic covenant is something that condemns rather than saves (Acts 13:38-39; Rom 3:20; 2 Cor 3:4-11). In Paul’s mind, then, there is no “alternative way” of salvation for Israel apart from the grace of Jesus Christ that comes through the preaching and acceptance of the gospel (Rom 10:14-17; CCC 765; 839-40). THE CLIMAX of Paul’s discussion is the revelation that Israelites from all twelve tribes will be saved by the Messiah through the mercy and forgiveness of the New Covenant (Rom 11:26-27). Seen in this way, the teaching of Paul simply echoes the teaching of Jesus, who not only selected twelve apostles to signify the messianic restoration of Israel (Mt 10:2-5), but sent them out to recover the “lost sheep” of Israel (Mt 10:6) and promised to seat them on twelve thrones over “the twelve tribes of Israel” (Mt 19:28). None of this is surprising when we consider that the Church, which is the messianic kingdom of Jesus (Mt 16:17-19; Lk 22:28-30), is modeled on the ancient kingdom of David, which unified all twelve tribes under the anointed king (2 Sam 5:1-5; 1 Kings 11:42), even as it stretched beyond the borders of Israel to encompass the Gentiles (1 Kings 4:21; Ps 2:8; 72:8-11).