Posted on 10/23/2014 1:37:07 PM PDT by Gamecock
Death Penalty - 0% Recidivism Rate
As for the rest, your logic makes no sense. You're extending to the killer a salvific exemption not extended to his victims. If we must by your logic assume that the victims have met their eternal fate because God employed the killer as the agent of His will, there's no reason not to claim the same role for the State in applying judgement; and the murderer has ample opportunity to make a full confession and perfect Act of Contrition, something of which his victims were almost certainly deprived.
Actually Catholic Church teaching has never ruled it out completely. Even JPII’s catechism doesn’t rule it out completely.
Execution is not murder.
The problem with “life imprisonment” is that (1) there’s always a chance a judge will release them, regardless of the original sentence, and (2) they can still harm others while in prison. On the other hand, a BIG problem with execution is that the person may not be guilty, and another is the possibility that a person may repent and be converted.
This is why I say it’s not an easy question.
I think all news media are more likely to be wrong than right. What’s it to you?
True.
Because typically people blame the secular media for taking Francis out of context, etc, not the Catholic media.
I’m sure the Pope has had many beautiful encounters with hand-picked, photogenic prisoners. Let him go to one of those real prisons, where there are thousands of vicious animals who would throw their feces at him and cut his throat, if they weren’t caged in chrome-steel boxes.
And that system of justice is so great people are just waiting in line to get there-not-my ancestors left the place before 1800, and am I ever glad...
Several countries in S America don’t have life sentences, either-none of the are what I’d call safe.
As a Catholic, I can understand and respect his position on the death penalty; but to be opposed to life imprisonment shows he has a deep misunderstanding of the criminal mind.
He'll come out of there saying the same thing Richard Pryor did, "Thank God We Got Penitentiaries."
Yes, not much different.
I think they overlook two things, the danger to guards/other prisoners, and the potential for regime change and pardon/escape.
"Pelosi does not perceive her own corruption. It is a little like what happens with bad breath: someone who has it hardly ever realizes it; other people notice and have to tell him," the pope said. "Corruption is an evil greater than sin. More than forgiveness, this evil needs to be cured."
Glad to see the Pope addressing SOME of the evils in the Church today.
Also reported the same way by Vatican Radio:
http://www.news.va/en/news/pope-no-to-death-penalty-and-to-inhuman-prison-con
Exact quotes.
Your viewpoint is reasonable, as well. I don’t think it’s necessary for me to say, “I’m sure,” in general or about particular cases, because I’m not in a position to make the decisions.
Sure.
I realize the Vatican has never supported the death penalty-but what is with opposing life sentences? There really are evil people in this world who remain unrepentant-they don’t need to be free again, ever-does Pope Francis think Charles Manson-or someone like him-would beg forgiveness?
I want Pope Benedict back...
So what is the appropriate time to put someone in prison then? Is 10 years sufficient for a child serial murderer?
Where is this from? I don’t see it in the OP.
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