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To: sitetest

You should have caucused this so that the adults can have a rational discussion. I’m in RCIA now, and it’s good to be coming home. I look forward to a rational discussion about this, if the trolls can be kept at bay.


8 posted on 11/04/2014 11:01:25 AM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun
Dear goodwithagun,

I thought about that, but because of the mention of Calvinism in the article, I figured it violated caucus rules. I dislike partially eliding quotes, as it sorta defeats the purpose of quoting.

I'd hoped that the others wouldn't be interested in internal Catholic theological issues, but I was foolish.

It's wonderful to hear that you're in RCIA. My son's girlfriend is, too.


sitetest

13 posted on 11/04/2014 11:07:01 AM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: goodwithagun

This clued us in to how deeply they had been affected by our choices and the culture that made them possible. As Christian parents we were keen to bring up our children in a Church unwavering on marriage. The Catholic Church offered a rich and beautiful doctrine of marriage in all its fullness, especially as a picture of Christ’s marriage to his bride, the Church. This vision was slowly leading us to consider the Church’s other claims.
But there’s more to coming to the Catholic faith than theological reading. As any convert can attest, there are many ups-and-downs during the journey: Struggling with doctrine followed by insights from magisterial passages coupled with Scripture, feeling still and alone followed by being overwhelmed by the presence of the saints before us, crying out to God for His presence and having Him answer in the Blessed Sacrament. Many times I woke up in the middle of the night thinking: How can I be considering Catholicism? But then in the morning at daily mass praying the liturgy, I experience the profound presence of God, even though I do not take the Eucharist.
Since I cannot now receive the Eucharist, it is through spiritual communion that I am kept spiritually fed by the Lord. This act of willing reception is not, as some may think, second-class communion. Far from it. To believe so is to diminish one of the ways Christ feeds his people, as Hans Urs von Balthasar warns in his book, Prayer:
For spiritual communion is by no means merely an act of longing for the reception of the Lord under the sacramental signs; much deeper, and more properly, it is the act of prayer of a living and understanding faith, by which it enters into living communication and communion with Christ, the eternal and living Truth.
Balthasar wants to impress upon the reader the objective reality of spiritual communion. It is not the absence of something but the presence of him. I don’t get to pine or indulge in self-pity during the distribution of the Eucharist. And God forbid I should become angry with my priest or the Church for not giving me Communion. As Archbishop Charles J. Chaput put it during the 2014 Erasmus lecture, “none of us are welcome on our own terms, in the Church we’re welcome on Jesus’ terms. That’s what it means to be a Christian, you submit yourself to Jesus and His teaching. You don’t recreate your own body of spirituality.”
Before you feel sorry for me, remember that the Church didn’t do this to me. I did this to myself when I disobeyed my God by walking away from my first marriage. Was I young and immature? Yes. Were there circumstances that drove me to such drastic measures? Sure. And yes, I am currently pursuing a Decree of Nullity, trusting God for a just decision. Whatever the outcome, I can not, and will not walk away from the Church for standing firmly on the teachings of Christ.
Some people may be shocked at the idea of submitting to a church that tells me because I’m divorced and remarried I can’t take Communion. But unless it can be shown otherwise, any tampering with Communion for the divorced and remarried will corrupt the doctrine of marriage, and—by diminishing the image of the Church as bride of Christ—debase the Church.
I have run to her for shelter. I now pray—for my sake, for my children’s—that the Church will not waver.


100 posted on 11/04/2014 2:21:13 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goodwithagun
I’m in RCIA now, and it’s good to be coming home.

Christians refer to heaven as home and we long for the time that we get there. Catholics refer to the Catholic Church as home.
105 posted on 11/04/2014 4:11:51 PM PST by Old Yeller (D.A.M.N. - Deport All Muslims Now! Starting in the White House.)
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To: goodwithagun
I'm in RCIA now, and it’s good to be coming home.

Should we be surprised?

120 posted on 11/04/2014 8:41:20 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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