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The Nature of the Mass and the need for Sacrifice
walkinginthedesert ^ | Arturo

Posted on 11/08/2014 8:35:21 PM PST by walkinginthedesert

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To: metmom

From the article...” each Mass that we attend, it is as if Christ’s blood was being shed again”.....

How sad is that! They’ve fully lost sight that Jesus’s blood was shed “Once” for all...and so much of their teaching is old testament rituals twisted to fit their dogma and teachings of men....The blood of animals had to be shed over and over, but the blood of Jesus was shed “only one time”....”It is finished!”

No wonder they struggle with what it is to be reconciled to God and the New Covenant principles and teachings.....as is written:...... Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature...old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.......2 Corinthians 5:17

What they are doing in Mass is definitely ‘a perversion’ of the Gospel of Jesus Christ as the Bible teaches us. This Mass Ritual proclaims then that Jesus’s blood was not sufficient.


61 posted on 11/09/2014 3:33:07 PM PST by caww
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To: Claud
Genesis 14: And Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.

Every time you guys see bread or wine, you think Eucharist...Just like when you see water, you thing baptize...And when you see baptize, you see water...

Did Melchisedek also say, 'this is my body and blood', eat it in remembrance of me as a sacrifice since there is no past, present or future???

62 posted on 11/09/2014 3:35:23 PM PST by Iscool
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To: caww
Hebrews 6:4-6 For it is impossible, in the case of those who have once been enlightened, who have tasted the heavenly gift, and have shared in the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the goodness of the word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, to restore them again to repentance, since they are crucifying once again the Son of God to their own harm and holding him up to contempt.
63 posted on 11/09/2014 3:36:05 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Springfield Reformer

....” By God’s grace, I was rescued from that nonsense, but not without considerable pain”....

I believe you...there are many stories I could share of those who have been involved with everything from cults to false religions and those of Hinduism, New Age, and clubs/organizations who have various ‘rituals’ they involve themselves in, who do not come away from these unscathed.


64 posted on 11/09/2014 3:39:30 PM PST by caww
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To: metmom

The people described in that passage are merely professing Christians who are not actually saved, they are self-deceived hypocrites who do not have true saving faith to begin with.

So many say I believe in Jesus, what they mean is they believe He existed and is a great teacher and a good man, but not that He is who Christians ,and the Bible, claim He said He is.

I have seen and heard many are simply weary of all the religious activities, the rituals they do; all the do’s and don’ts they have to obey to please God. .....Jesus offer’s to them...

.... “Come to Me, all you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. “Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. “For My yoke is easy and My burden is light.” (Matt 11:28-30)


65 posted on 11/09/2014 3:56:27 PM PST by caww
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To: Claud; Rides_A_Red_Horse

Try dealing with your average lay Catholic.

They don’t get it even is one person in the past did.


66 posted on 11/09/2014 4:05:36 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: caww

For the last 2,000 years Christians have participated in the Eucharist. Today, there are over a billion and half Christians worldwide that participate in this ancient sacrament. This number dwarfs the number of PROTESTants that do not believe in the words of Jesus Christ, and indeed belittle those that have been practicing the exact same sacrament that the earliest Church fathers practiced. The decision is in. The false religion of PROTESTism loses, and loses big.


67 posted on 11/09/2014 4:05:57 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: Claud
Is it true, or is it not true, that Calvary, like every other moment in time, is eternally present to God the Father who lives in the Eternal Now?

But what's being discussed is not God's vantage point.

It's the claim that the Catholic church is participating in the death of Jesus every time they perform the mass. It can't be because that happened 2,000 years ago and while God is transcendent in regard to time, we're not.

And even if God *sees* all time as presence before Him, does not go to follow that it is reality happening for eternity in heaven.

68 posted on 11/09/2014 4:08:36 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: caww
What utter nonsense.....and no wonder the leadership and Priesthood ‘focus on this ritual’, it keeps people coming back to a false concept that they are receiving the “saving power of Christ” again and again...and again.

Job security.

69 posted on 11/09/2014 4:10:49 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: NKP_Vet

2000 years ago Jesus Christ was in His teens.

If the Eucharist was central to Christianity, then why no emphasis mentioned in the ACTS of the Apostles?


70 posted on 11/09/2014 9:45:21 PM PST by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: NKP_Vet

Oh for crying out loud..here you go again about the years catholics have been around....as if that somehow legitimizes their twisted rituals..... you might as well include that history also shows the Catholic Church has tortured and murdered hundreds of thousands of people around the world for over 1500 years....so your ‘numbers’ mean nothing but numbers.

Saying over a billion and half people practice this ritual is no different then Hindu’s and Buddist’s , or Muslims claiming they’ve practiced their’s.

As for Protestants....well there was the Reformation and grateful for that happening... which set the body of Christ back on the path Jesus would have it. So we have gained back the Faith that HE would have us to know and the true gospel message, which in fact became distorted and twisted under the catholic church into something else entirely different then first was delivered to Christians...as did the very membership of the church.

So no...we lost nothing but in fact gained the pleasure of the Father for setting things straight.


71 posted on 11/10/2014 1:31:24 AM PST by caww
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To: metmom

...”Job security”....

They should all move to Vatican City since their alligience is to the Pope and it’s a country unto itself as well as their citizenship first and foremost above any country they reside in.


72 posted on 11/10/2014 1:38:31 AM PST by caww
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To: Slyfox
It is after all only through Divine Revelation that we can know what sacrifices are pleasing to God.

Psalm 40:5-6
Many, O LORD my God, are the wonders which You have done, And Your thoughts toward us; There is none to compare with You. If I would declare and speak of them, They would be too numerous to count. Sacrifice and meal offering You have not desired; My ears You have opened; Burnt offering and sin offering You have not required.

73 posted on 11/10/2014 3:51:32 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NKP_Vet

THIS

is what?


I'll bet it was NOT a sliver of dried out wafer!

Why can't CATHOLICS do THIS???

74 posted on 11/10/2014 3:58:16 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
The Catholics are big on guilt and condemnation but never seemed to say much about His love.

A vast multitude of Protestants are swinging the OPPOSITE way on the pendulum: all LOVE! and no WRATH!!!

75 posted on 11/10/2014 3:59:47 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Iscool
Isn't it amazing that they will take terms out of the bible like 'after the order of Melchisadek' and build a completely foreign doctrine on it and claim it is 'in the bible'...

I thought this is a CATHOLIC thread: not a MORMON one...

76 posted on 11/10/2014 4:00:23 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

We Protestants have modified what the Catholics started.

How did a YEARLY meal of rememberence of GOD’s provision and safety, get turned into what we do today?


77 posted on 11/10/2014 4:02:31 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: NKP_Vet
This number dwarfs the number of PROTESTants that do not believe in the words of Jesus Christ

 

John 6:28-29

Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”



78 posted on 11/10/2014 4:04:36 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: redleghunter
If the Eucharist was central to Christianity, then why no emphasis mentioned in the ACTS of the Apostles?

That page of the letter got lost.



Acts 15

79 posted on 11/10/2014 4:05:39 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
I thought this is a CATHOLIC thread: not a MORMON one...

Is there a difference???

80 posted on 11/10/2014 4:40:31 AM PST by Iscool
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