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To: B4Ranch; MHGinTN; All
So, IoW...first you defend Joseph Smith's character...
...and then you extrapolate from that people auditioning for godhood are "fine people" (and 'YEAH!' YA BETTER BE!' if you're auditioning for divine competition!)
...and then when I address your question about "perfection" ... focusing not even on "perfection" but simple criminality...
...ya wanna change the subject & talk about Jews now?

Well, I'm sure you've met many "fine (Jewish) people," too right?

So, hey...go ahead & generalize away on every tribe, be it ethnic, religious, or socio-political (like I've met several "fine people" liberals...or several "fine people" Democrats).

(Now what point does any of the above make again?)

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So...let me talk about a specific group of Jews from Jesus' incarnational days...perhaps including one or some who "bought" out Judas to commit betrayal vs. Christ.

Question for you: Did Jesus ever overtly compliment the Pharisees?

Answer? Yes!

Per Matthew 5:20, we see Jesus giving a great compliment to the outward "assets" of legalistic Pharisees...telling people that unless their righteousness exceeded that of the Pharisees & the teachers of the law, "you will certainly NOT enter the kingdom of heaven." (Matt. 5:20).

Now that was a tremendous compliment. But you see, it wasn't meant to be a complete profile of them.

We find Jesus' words in Matthew 23...giving an internal assessment of the Pharisees:

25"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. 26Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean. 27"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean. 28In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.

You see the parallel I am presenting here?

Here you wanted to focus only on the externals of the legalistic group of the day.

But what does Christ do? He acknowledges those fine externals; but He isn't fooled by them.

You see, anybody -- Mormon or non-Mormon, Jew or non-Jew, Pharisee or non-Pharisee -- seeking to try to change God's mind about who they are inwardly by doing good works in order to get to heaven has a message from Jesus they need to be aware of:

“Very truly I tell you Pharisees, anyone who does not enter the sheep pen by the gate, but climbs in by some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the gate is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The gatekeeper opens the gate for him, and the sheep listen to his voice… 7 Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved. They will come in and go out, and find pasture. (John 10:1-3, 7-9)

Jesus Himself is the Way (John 14:6); and only knowing the true Jesus is eternal life (John 17:3)

158 posted on 11/11/2014 7:44:43 PM PST by Colofornian
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