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Where Fundamentalists Are Right: 5 Things Catholics Need to Take Seriously Again
ChurchPOP ^ | 2014 | Brantly Millegan

Posted on 11/14/2014 1:01:10 PM PST by millegan

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1 posted on 11/14/2014 1:01:10 PM PST by millegan
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To: millegan

Five points in the article are:

1) Authority and literal sense of the Scripture
2) The reality of sin and Hell
3) The absolute unicity of Jesus for salvation
4) The future Second Coming of Christ
5) A willingness to be fools for Christ

My observations as a Catholic:

1) I think most Catholics believe in the literal sense of the Scripture, but are not well educated in Scripture to begin with. The result of centuries of the Church telling Catholics that we needed the clergy and monastic scholars to “interpret” it for us.

2, 3, and 4) Catholics absolutely believe in those. They are incorporated in the Apostles Creed that we say at Mass every week.

5) I will concede that in recent years our Protestant brothers and sisters have proven more willing to put themselves out there, outside of their comfort zones, in the effort to evangelize others.


2 posted on 11/14/2014 1:16:53 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: millegan

if it is pejorative it is usually “funnymentalist” :-)


4 posted on 11/14/2014 1:17:19 PM PST by Prophet2520
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To: millegan

https://archive.org/details/fundamentalstest17chic

THE FUNDAMENTALS
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ALL THE ENTIRE TEXT OF THE ORIGINAL VOLUMES OF ESSAYS THAT CRETED THE TERM FUNDAMENTALIST


5 posted on 11/14/2014 1:18:47 PM PST by RaceBannon (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARINES!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

That’s a very incomplete list of what was included in the original essays called THE FUNDAMENTALS


6 posted on 11/14/2014 1:20:39 PM PST by RaceBannon (HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARINES!)
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To: millegan

What are the 5? Don’t want to give clicks to the site (supposing it isn’t yours?).


7 posted on 11/14/2014 1:21:48 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Thanks.


8 posted on 11/14/2014 1:22:11 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
The result of centuries of the Church telling Catholics that we needed the clergy and monastic scholars to “interpret” it for us.

We need the Church to interpret Scripture for us.

Look at the shattering effect that private interpretation has done to the unity of Christendom, which Christ desires, and to the proliferation of errors, up to and including the rejection of the Trinity.

"Listen to the Church."
"He who hears you hears me."
--Jesus

9 posted on 11/14/2014 1:25:22 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Servant of the Cross; millegan; humblegunner
Good content - shame about the blog-pimping.
10 posted on 11/14/2014 1:27:59 PM PST by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: millegan

Thanks for posting.


11 posted on 11/14/2014 1:35:53 PM PST by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: millegan
The term “fundamentalist” is a pejorative term today, used to label someone the speaker believes is an irrational religious extremist of some kind. But a hundred years ago, the term was taken as a badge of honor by theologically conservative Protestants to distinguish themselves from liberal Protestantism. While liberal Protestants in mainline denominations were denying basic Christian teachings like the authority of the Bible and the bodily resurrection of Jesus, conservative Protestants called for going back to the “fundamentals” of the faith – hence the term.

If Catholics are being called to "take seriously" the five fundamentals, doesn't that mean the author considers them to be less serious about orthodoxy i.e. more theologically liberal than Protestants?

12 posted on 11/14/2014 1:44:54 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Then the list comes down to one thing that Catholics need to take seriously, where fundamentalists are better:

More frequent reading of the Bible.

Yes, we hear the entire Bible every three years during Mass. After 53 years of going to Mass, the Bible has been read to me 17 times. I’ve read it twice on my own.

But I’m unable to quote Bible verses like the fundamentalists can.


13 posted on 11/14/2014 1:52:57 PM PST by kidd
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To: Buckeye McFrog
God Bless the Catholic sheep!

He knows which ones are his, and no one can take them from him!

Even though I am vehemently against the institution of the HRCC, I love my Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ.

It is possible to totally disagree philosophically without condemning Christians to hell. How? Leave judgement up to the JUDGE! It's not our job!

14 posted on 11/14/2014 2:03:26 PM PST by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: kidd; Buckeye McFrog
Yes, we hear the entire Bible every three years during Mass. After 53 years of going to Mass, the Bible has been read to me 17 times. I’ve read it twice on my own.

That's an old canard, and one easily disproved by matching your lexionary to a list of chapters and verses in the Bible itself.

Assuming you attended daily mass faithfully for three years (after which the Lectionary reading cycle ends), you only heard 13.5% of the Old Testament (3378 verses), and 71.5% of the New Testament (5689 verses). That's 9067 out of 33001 verses mentioned in the chart, i.e. you heard 27.5% of the entire Bible (excluding Psalms). But good job on the personal reading!

15 posted on 11/14/2014 2:05:38 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
>The result of centuries of the Church telling Catholics that we needed the clergy and monastic scholars to “interpret” it for us.<

We need the Church to interpret Scripture for us.

Not if the church is wrong on its interpretation as is the catholic church on Mary and the concept of mortal and venial sins....and that's just for starters.

16 posted on 11/14/2014 2:18:35 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: millegan
"Passing judgement" on the Catholic Church using the Bible is as supercilious and naive as "correcting" great literature using a grammar text

wow....the ignorance.

17 posted on 11/14/2014 2:23:17 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: millegan

Seems to me that the catholic church focuses too much on man’s sin rather than the grace of God through Christ Jesus.

I realize that sounds like a blanket statement, don’t mean it to be. Protestants certainly have quirks as well.

There was this sense that folks were attempting to earn their way into heaven by doing everything just right or doing enough. God doesn’t see us by our works, but solely through His son’s atoning blood. God doesn’t say, well well well Servantboy, you screwed the pooch today. I’m not sure your gonna make it. My child, to come into my good graces once again, you must.....

I dunno...freedom comes through the knowledge that God is not mad or sitting at the edge of His throne looking down waiting to poof someone into ashes if they screw up or fail to tow the line.

Jesus PAID for our sins. We ARE healed through his stripes. There can be no double jeopardy once one surrenders to His lordship.

God loves us and accepts us JUST THE WAY WE ARE! Sanctification begins at the time of surrender and God promises to never leave us nor forsake us. His Holy Spirit begins a transformation in the believers life, sometimes takes days, sometimes years or months to reach the point God wants us to be.

We cannot add to or take away from the free gift of grace.


18 posted on 11/14/2014 2:23:51 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: millegan

Nothing against your blog, but it is considered bad form to excerpt.


19 posted on 11/14/2014 2:25:53 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Then I’ve read it twice in its entirety, and by going to Mass weekly for 53 years, I’ve read 71.5% of the New Testament 17 times.

But my original point remains.


20 posted on 11/14/2014 2:32:43 PM PST by kidd
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