[Elsie]

Nobody here has said that we are saved by keeping his commandments;

I do so wish you'd make up your mind!

We aren't SAVED by keeping commandments, but we are LOST by NOT keeping them?!?!?

[editor-surveyor]

Yes!

No one that is deliberately not keeping the commandments, and especially teaching others to do the same has any chance. That is the very definition of a “worker of iniquity.”

Grace is paying for the sins we committed before we had knowledge of his Way, not for the arrogance of demanding a get-out-of-hell-free card.

If you’re his, you are working on pleasing him, and only keeping his commandments will ever do that job.