Posted on 11/20/2014 9:51:44 AM PST by ifinnegan
Hugh Hewitt Argues Against the Afterlife and God's Reward
Hugh Hewitt, Salem Radio host and establishment GOP par exellance (famous for being a Romney acolyte and biographer) was just on the Dennis Prager show arguing that a person's morality is unaffected by their belief or non-belief in the after life or Heaven or Hell.
Prager, Jewish and a fellow Salem host, argued the opposite.
I didn't recognize Hugh's voice and at first thought it was a liberal caller sparring with Dennis, saying that whether or not one believes in the after life has no bearing in whether they act in a good or moral manner, that the reward of Heaven or punishment of Hell has no bearing on anyone's actions.
I was surpassed to find it was Hewitt making this argument. It is fundamentally anti-Christian to argue such.
Hewit made the ludicrous argument that the Isalmist butchers believe in the afterlife and it doesn't keep them from doing evil.
Prager pointed out that, the Islamist thinks doing evil brings the afterlife reward, compared to Jewish or Christian belief which is exact opposite, pointing out the argument didn't make any sense.
Hewitt acknowledged that was a good point. But he followed up with anecdotes about his acquaintances who do not believe in Heaven or Hell who act morally and he made an assertion that there is something in people that causes them to act morally, fear of Hell nor anticipation of Heaven having no impact.
He finished by saying if Dennis Prager did not believe in God he'd still be the same Dennis Prager and hold the same moral views and act as morally.
The whole thing was bizarre and seemingly out of character for Hewitt who presents himself as a former Catholic, now evangelical. He also was stating Christians are more and more not believing in the afterlife, which was bizarre.
Just wanted to put this out there.
Did anyone else hear this exchange?
Yes. Very true.
There is a fine line between doing the evil and loving to do the evil. One sees their evil and hates it. The other sees the evil and wallows in it.
Romans 7
4 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
>> [Hewitt] didn’t give any indication he was playing Devil’s Advocate <<
Yes, but maybe that just shows how deceptive and sneaky a skillful lawyer can be.
(On the other hand, I heard only the last couple of minutes of the interview. So you may want to discount my opinion accordingly.)
>> he’s always claimed to be an evangelical <<
Yes, but I seem to recall he said a few months ago that Archbishop Chaput had persuaded him to return to the Church of Rome.
Absolutely true...myself included.
I listen to Hugh Hewitt most week days but he has a habit of cutting people off if they do not say president before saying obama. Hugh Hewitt does not believe the democrats are bad but just wrong in their policies. Hugh would not be able to name one thing the democrats have ever done that is good for America. He as some other radio hosts get into this game of politics without ever thinking it is not a game. It is not a game for the millions unemployed or the thousands killed by the policies of the democrats. The democrats are ruining this country and too many times I have heard Hugh Hewitt cut people off when they start to offer facts.
HH is also like George Will, for granting amnesty to ALL these kids who recently came from Central America.
Predestination would completely eliminate all of that. It would make God arbitrary and capricious and the rest of scripture does not bear that out! Anyway, now I see where you are coming from so I shan't disturb you with further questions unless you desire them. May God bless and keep you...
Please provide some evidence that the Bible teaches you have "free will". That is, if I understand your use of it, you mean, "Men make decisions that are completely free from the influence of God's management." I do not find this anywhere in the Bible. But, predestination is all over the place. For example...
Romans 8:29ff: For those God foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom He predestined, he also called (notice, He picks you out, then predestines you, THEN calls); and those He called, He also justified; those He justified, he also glorified.
Further, please notice Rom. 3:21ff: But now a righteousness from God, apart from "the ten commandments" has been made known, to which the Law and the Prophets testify...For we maintain that that a man is justified by faith apart from observing "the ten commandments".
And, I certainly do not understand the Scriptures to be teaching that God is "arbitrary and capricious" in His selections. Those may be words you ascribe to Him if you cannot understand why He may have chosen someone, but they are not my words. I find Him inscrutable, infinite, holy beyond description in human words. His judgments are perfect. But....they are not based on our reasonings. If this bothers one's sensibilities, well, as Paul says, "Too bad. Who are you to answer back to God?" But, I certainly fought this for a number of years until I became persuaded that this is exactly what makes God God. He is controlling everything, everywhere, at all times.
But, grace to you, my FRiend. Maybe another time.
“I didn’t recognize Hugh’s voice and at first thought it was a liberal caller sparring with Dennis”
But your guess was right- it was a liberal caller: Hugh Hewitt.
Just because a GOPe liberal masquerades as a “conservative” it doesn’t make him one. Don’t let Hugh Hewitt’s false posturing fool you. And that goes double for Michael Medved.
Hewitt’s not a Californian. He’s a carpetbagger from Warren, Ohio and we will gladly send him back.
Medved’s show has gone from being anti-conservative to becoming THE anti conservative voice of the GOP on the radio.
And to demonstrate the fraudulent nature of Hugh Hewitt's claim to support the tea party you need look no farther than the recent California primary race for governor.
The tea party had a candidate running, Tim Donnelly, a Republican member of the California State Assembly. Donnelly thinks illegal alien foreign nationals ought to be deported, he thinks Islam is a danger to the United States... he's a pretty standard California tea partier. Donnelly was denounced by Hewitt (and his comrade Medved) as being dangerous and an irresponsible candidate who would seriously damage the GOP nationally if he was nominated.
Instead Hewitt and Medved wholeheartedly supported the GOPe's candidate Neel Kashkari. Kashkari is a Hindu who supports gay marriage, amnesty for illegals, and abortion. And he says he voted for Obama. That's who the Salem Radio "conservatives" thinks is an excellent candidate for the Republican party.
I am not perfect. Far from it but I know I would be far worse if I didn’t believe.
That’s for sure. And in my opinion Medved has been returning to his roots.
One of Medved’s early jobs was that of being a Congressional aide to Congressman Ron Dellums. Dellums was an open socialist, maybe even a communist. This wasn’t secret and was certainly known to Medved when he chose to work for him.
Medved has made a career out of having “second thoughts” that convinced him to become “a conservative”. Well his conversion was either brief or it was fraudulent because he spends the majority of his time speaking against conservatives and in support of the GOP establishment.
Sort of like a social conservative Jewish liberal that wants the GOP to be more like a moderate democrat party that is not so anti-God and anti-family.
You’ve summed him up exactly.
That is a point of view expressed by activist atheists, many of whom are LIEbertarians.
There is something to be said about God writing his law on our hearts which convict us and brings on shame or regret when we violate it.
That is a point of view expressed by activist atheists, many of whom are LIEbertarians.
There is something to be said about God writing his law on our hearts which convict us and brings on shame or regret when we violate it.
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