The USCCB's Awful Immigration Statement

National Catholic Register ^ | 11/22/14 | Pat Archbold

[BlatherNaut]

How much longer we will have to endure this sort of disingenuous dreck of what amounts to little more than Catholic cover of democrat party initiatives?

In his statement on President Obama's constitution-busting executive orders on immigration, Bishop Eusebio Elizondo, M.Sp.S., auxiliary bishop of Seattle and chairman of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB) Committee on Migration twice references the extra-legality of the move by saying that any such actions must be "within its legitimate authority" that these "pastors" (yes, the scare quotes are appropriate) welcome ANY action "within these limits."

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The USCCB shows again that it is willing to use the visage of episcopal approbation to promote the public policy preferences of the leftists that run it, by any means necessary. By doing so, the USSCB proves that it is out of its depth, out of its competence, and out of its mind.

[Arthur McGowan]

Every time a bishop or group of bishops take a position that the teaching of the Church does not oblige every Catholic to agree with, they are abusing their office.

Most bishops in America are Democrat party hacks, who exploit their position as bishop to engage in Democrat activism.

They are not Catholics—which they PROVE by giving Communion to people like Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden.

[ansel12]

The message reaches the Catholic voters.

[BlatherNaut]

Every time a bishop or group of bishops take a position that the teaching of the Church does not oblige every Catholic to agree with, they are abusing their office. Most bishops in America are Democrat party hacks, who exploit their position as bishop to engage in Democrat activism. They are not Catholics—which they PROVE by giving Communion to people like Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden.

Can't bite the hands that feed them. Government funding AND voluntary donations. Their German counterparts are pikers in comparison.

[BlatherNaut]

The message reaches the Catholic voters.

Less than 20% of whom care enough about their faith to attend Mass weekly.

[hinckley buzzard]

According to surveys, 41% of Catholics in America attend Mass weekly. Another 41% attend monthly. FYI to those who do not wish to be pig-ignorant bigots.

[Lazamataz]

Catholics are awful.

[CdMGuy]

This Catholic says that except for a few exceptions, and we already know most of those, the rest of the Bishops/Archbishops/Cardinals are a bunch of left wing weenies. Many of them do not even adhere to the doctrines of the Catholic Church. Think Wuerl, think Dolan, think O’Malley, the latter of whom disgraced himself last Sunday on 60 Minutes. They are American versions of German Cardinal Kasper.

[BlatherNaut]

According to surveys, 41% of Catholics in America attend Mass weekly

Depends on the diocese. Less than 15% in Cardinal O'Malley's diocese.

[BlatherNaut]

This Catholic says that except for a few exceptions, and we already know most of those, the rest of the Bishops/Archbishops/Cardinals are a bunch of left wing weenies.

+1

[G Larry]

I’m about fed up with the pretense that there is no distinction between ILLEGAL and LEGAL immigration!

All these platitudes about how we’re to treat “immigrants” as though entering ILLEGALLY should have no consequence.

There is NO acknowledgement of the inequity that imposes on those arriving legally.

[july4thfreedomfoundation]

My relatives on Long Island, NY are Catholic and most of them vote Republican.

I have a first cousin on Long Island who is an elementary school teacher, Catholic, and votes GOP. She and her husband despise Obama. Her late father, my uncle, was a Republican party official in New York years ago.

I haven’t been to mass in years, and it’s the left-wing drift of the church that’s responsible.

[BlatherNaut]

I’m about fed up with the pretense that there is no distinction between ILLEGAL and LEGAL immigration! All these platitudes about how we’re to treat “immigrants” as though entering ILLEGALLY should have no consequence. There is NO acknowledgement of the inequity that imposes on those arriving legally.

I'm with you. Resources are limited. Preferential treatment for those who violate our immigration law at the expense of American citizens and LEGAL immigrants is WRONG.

[BlatherNaut]

haven’t been to mass in years, and it’s the left-wing drift of the church that’s responsible.

A shame to let a bunch of leftists deprive you of Holy Mass (and in the process deprive the Lord of your presence). There are still orthodox priests and congregations to be found (although admittedly it may be necessary to drive long distances from home to access them).

"Every Holy Mass, heard with devotion, produces in our souls marvelous effects, abundant spiritual and material graces which we, ourselves, do not know...It is easier for the earth to exist without the sun than without the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass!" ~ St. Padre Pio

[VermiciousKnid]

I am a Long Island Catholic too, july, and, like your family, we have NEVER voted Dem.

In fact, almost all the Catholics I know - especially those of us who attend the TLM - are conservative in both nature and voting patterns.

Of course, there are MANY here on Long Island that are not, but among the weekly Mass-goers? Almost all GOP.

BTW, tell your family to come join us at St. Matthew’s parish in Dix Hills for the TLM! It’s WONDERFUL!

Regards,

PS: There are a bunch of parishes on Long Island that CONSTANTLY push the illegal-alien nonsense, but I think the only ones who listen are the illegal aliens themselves. Everybody else gets kind of ticked off about it. (Our parish does NOT do this.)

[Iscool]

Mass Attendance. Prior to 2000, CARA reports Gallup estimates of the % attending in any given week adjusted for the effects of social desirability bias. From 2000 on the data are from the CARA Catholic Poll (CCP) and represents the % of U.S.adult Catholics who say they attended Mass every week. For more background information on measurement, see: The Nuances of Accurately Measuring Mass Attendance.

2000-----22%
2005-----23%
2010-----24%
2014-----24%

From Here...

[armydoc]

This Catholic says that except for a few exceptions, and we already know most of those, the rest of the Bishops/Archbishops/Cardinals are a bunch of left wing weenies. Many of them do not even adhere to the doctrines of the Catholic Church. Think Wuerl, think Dolan, think O’Malley, the latter of whom disgraced himself last Sunday on 60 Minutes. They are American versions of German Cardinal Kasper.

Do you think that your characterization of these Church leaders as "a bunch of left wing weenies" might violate Canon 212?:

In accord with the knowledge, competence, and preeminence that they possess, [the laity] have the right and even at times a duty to manifest to the sacred pastors their opinion on matters that pertain to the good of the Church, and they have a right to make their opinion known to the other Christian faithful with due regard for the integrity of faith and morals and reverence toward their pastors, and with consideration for the common good and the dignity of persons.

JPII's thoughts on the matter:

"Unity with the bishop is the essential and indispensable attitude of the faithful Catholic, for one cannot claim to be on the pope’s side without also standing by the bishops in communion with him. Nor can one claim to be with the bishop without standing by the head of the college."

[NKP_Vet]

ANY CATHOLIC that votes for a democrat has renigged on the right to call themselves Catholic. You absolutely can not be for abortion and be a Catholic at the same time, and this includes the laity and clergy. Hypocrites all!

No other issues morally trump issues of intrinsic evil such as racism and abortion — not immigration, poverty or war. Today a Catholic voter who has learned the facts about the Party of Death, and who votes for any Democrat, necessarily has the intent to support abortion and RETA, and formally cooperates in grave evil, committing a mortal sin. This is detailed in the document Virtuous Citizenship 2014 available at http://www.sinvotedemocrat.com or http://www.pecadovotardemocrata.com.