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To: Bayard
"I don’t have to refute anything."

You don't have to refute anything? I beg to differ. Your cult-like organization makes the claim that the true body of believers, their "Church", teaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ and it includes each of those things I mentioned (and several others). I absolutely, unequivocally deny this claim and further say, these are man-made, fabrications of homemade religion. Your job of refutation is to show that I am wrong and these are, in fact, taught clearly in the Scriptures.

The topics themselves are descriptors of the content and I was challenging you, or any RC, to provide solid biblical evidence of their truthfulness. All you need to do is provide the passages wherein the ideas are taught. Where is "popery" taught? Where is an "indulgence" taught? Where is the "absolution of sin by a man" taught? Where is "purgatory" taught? Where is "veneration (and worship) of Mary as the co-redemptrix" taught? Must I go on or can you get the idea?

We biblicists can point to precisely where salvation by grace, through faith, alone is taught (Eph. 2). We can point to where it is taught that God chooses those He will rescue (Rom. 9). We can point to the sufficiency and perspicuity of the Bible (II Tim. 3:16,17). We can point to the depravity and helplessness of man (Rom. 3). All I am asking is for you, too, to point to where your organization's doctrines are taught in the Scripture. Or admit that they are made up by your organization, not supported in the Scriptures.

144 posted on 11/26/2014 8:36:13 AM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88
>>>Your cult-like organization makes the claim that the true body of believers, their "Church", teaches the Gospel of Jesus Christ and it includes each of those things I mentioned (and several others). I absolutely, unequivocally deny this claim and further say, these are man-made, fabrications of homemade religion.<<<<

Methinks you protest too much. I know YOU are a member of a cult, and among the thousands of splintered offshoots from the one true Church of Christ, which has remained the same Catholic, and Apostolic, and not fabrications. I don't have to prove anything to you. You obviously don't care enough about the claims of the Catholic Church to give me a serious representation and refutation.

You probably don't even want to investigate Catholic claims. At a bare minimum, you post against other Catholics without truly going through the effort to show your homework. Its a waste of time, because you won't convince anyone.

>>>We biblicists can point to precisely where salvation by grace, through faith, alone is taught<<<

No where in scripture does it expressly say "faith alone." That sounds like the invention of Martin Luther, whose errors were condemned by the council of Trent in 1563. The Catholic Church does not hold an unassuming doctrine on justification and grace. The Church does in fact teach that Faith is the essential and necessary and sufficient requirement for justification. That justification cannot be earned. The Church disagrees practically, that a person can say they believe in Jesus on Sunday and then burn crucifixes on Saturday night. Wouldn't you agree, a Christian does not believe in Jesus the Son of God, if they teach that Jesus was only a man and just wanted to pretend he was God? There are such things as practical consequences for belief. Why else would so many street side preachers attempt to get someone to proclaim Jesus?

The teachings of the Catholic Church are not hidden in some secret room. They are open and easily accessed online or in bookstores and libraries. They can be obtained from the sources of documents distributed.

Until you want to present to me something that is not a convenient straw-man for you to denigrate, I don't have to respond any further here.

145 posted on 11/26/2014 3:33:07 PM PST by Bayard
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