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To: editor-surveyor; terycarl
Read Irenaeus, “Against Heresies.”

He decried all the nonsense of the “catholic church” over 100 years before it even showed up.

Nice try ES but the opening of "Against heresies" Makes it clear he was speaking out against Valentinus and the Gnostics he led.

the title of Chapter 1: Absurd ideas of the disciples of Valentinus as to the origin, name, order, and conjugal productions of their fancied Æons, with the passages of Scripture which they adapt to their opinions.

Here at the end of that chapter he speaks out against sola Scriptura: and so they proceed when they find anything in the multitude of things contained in the Scriptures which they can adopt and accommodate to their baseless speculations.

Here is a link to the New Advent site that has it New Advent

Or the a protestant site. CCEL

YOu might consider getting the CD from CCEL. They have the writings of all the Early Church Fathers as well as numerous writings by Luther, Calvin, Zwingli etc...

The great thing is that there is no editorializing by them on any of the writings.

537 posted on 11/28/2014 5:58:04 AM PST by verga (Being "squishy" on discipline is just as destructive as being wrong on doctrine; in some ways, more)
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To: verga

Sorry, but no, he denounced all that CHANGED what the apostles taught.

The ‘catholic church’ brought in nothing but change from the apostles teaching. By the time that it was created, entropy alone had done massive damage, aside from the deliberate malfeasance of Rome. Hippolytus was probably the last to preach a gospel that was true to the apostles gospel.

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586 posted on 11/28/2014 11:50:46 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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