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For the record: In a Week of Papal Firsts, "All of us will be up there together, all of us!"
Rorate Caeli ^ | 12/1//14 | New Catholic

Posted on 12/01/2014 11:06:03 AM PST by BlatherNaut

Note: before some "apologists of the untenable" claim this must be a translation error, it is not, as you will see - we carefully checked it and retranslated it word by word from the Italian. What does it mean? We will not venture to say. We report it, for the record, you decide:

The Conciliar Constitution Gaudium et Spes, faced with these questions that forever resonate in the hearts of men and women, states: “We do not know the time for the consummation of the earth and of humanity, nor do we know how all things will be transformed. As deformed by sin, the shape of this world will pass away; but we are taught that God is preparing a new dwelling place and a new earth where justice will abide, and whose blessedness will answer and surpass all the longings for peace which spring up in the human heart” (n. 39). This is the Church’s destination: it is, as the Bible says, the “new Jerusalem”, “Paradise”. More than a place, it is a “state” of soul in which our deepest hopes are fulfilled in a superabundant way and our being, as creatures and as children of God, reach their full maturity. We will finally be clothed in the joy, peace and love of God, in a complete way, without any limit, and we will come face to face with Him! (cf. 1 Cor 13:12). It is beautiful to think of this, to think of Heaven. All of us will be up there together, all of us! [Tutti noi ci troveremo lassù, tutti.] It is beautiful, it gives strength to the soul. Franciscus General Audience November 26, 2014


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"Then he shall say to them also that shall be on his left hand: Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels." Matthew 25:41
1 posted on 12/01/2014 11:06:03 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: BlatherNaut
Hey, cool! That means I can go about living a life of sin and debauchery and not have sit through any more stuffy masses or irritating confessions! Thanks Pope!
2 posted on 12/01/2014 11:08:52 AM PST by apillar
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To: BlatherNaut

Devil will get “time served”.

/sarcasm


3 posted on 12/01/2014 11:10:51 AM PST by Big Red Badger ( - William Diamonds Drum - can You Hear it G man?)
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To: apillar

That is how it always been as long as you confess to your sins and accept Jesus as savior.


4 posted on 12/01/2014 11:13:54 AM PST by sakic
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To: BlatherNaut
That's not fair!! You're using the Bible against the Pope. Catholics have traditions and Petrine Supremacy, ya' know.
5 posted on 12/01/2014 11:14:08 AM PST by BipolarBob (You smell of elderberries, my friend.)
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To: BlatherNaut

So much for the faithful interpretation of scriptures by the Catholic church. If that is so, why did they “sell” indulgences?????


6 posted on 12/01/2014 11:15:08 AM PST by RatRipper (No need to rob others; democRATS will steal and share a tiny bit with you.)
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To: BlatherNaut
Yahoo!!!!!!!!


7 posted on 12/01/2014 11:16:21 AM PST by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: BlatherNaut

He was talking about the Church, so the context is the Church.


8 posted on 12/01/2014 11:18:29 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: BlatherNaut

l8r...


9 posted on 12/01/2014 11:19:10 AM PST by rdb3 (Meh! A hole-in-one is just an eagle. Sink an albatross!)
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To: apillar

I think you heard it correctly.


10 posted on 12/01/2014 11:20:02 AM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: BlatherNaut
Catholics are sitting in a corner crying, rocking and screaming, "He isn't speaking ex cathedra!!"
11 posted on 12/01/2014 11:20:12 AM PST by Dr. Thorne ("Don't be afraid. Just believe." - Mark 5:36)
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To: BlatherNaut

Did anybody bother to read this? From the article, the pope prefaces this statement by stating “This is the Church’s destination..” so, “We” refers to the people of the church, e.g. the saved, so yes all members of Christ’s church will be together.


12 posted on 12/01/2014 11:22:06 AM PST by LambSlave
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If a Muzzie “Imam” is up there, my understanding of God needs some serious changing.

Those slime should be relegated to a dimension of hell about three levels below what Dante envisioned.


13 posted on 12/01/2014 11:23:41 AM PST by Da Coyote
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So much for the faithful interpretation of scriptures by the Catholic church.

Can't blame the Church. The Pope has apparently gone rogue. Maybe he has apostatized. Maybe he is demented. Maybe he has been marinating in modernism for so long that he doesn't understand that his role as the Vicar of Christ is to guard and transmit the Deposit of Faith. It's a mystery.

14 posted on 12/01/2014 11:24:09 AM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: LambSlave

“This is the Church’s destination. . . It is beautiful to think of this, to think of Heaven. All of us will be up there together, all of us!”

Yes, I think he is just referring to the believers here.


15 posted on 12/01/2014 11:27:11 AM PST by CondorFlight (I)
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To: Big Red Badger

ROTFL!


16 posted on 12/01/2014 11:35:05 AM PST by The Ghost of FReepers Past (Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: BlatherNaut

I cannot imaging that his views were not known, at least by enough to spread the word among the Cardinals. How on earth was he selected to be Pope???


17 posted on 12/01/2014 11:38:47 AM PST by RatRipper (No need to rob others; democRATS will steal and share a tiny bit with you.)
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To: apillar

I can go about living a life of sin and debauchery —

Even better than that.

Survival of the Fittest, here I come.


18 posted on 12/01/2014 11:44:35 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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To: Da Coyote

three levels below what Dante envisioned. —

Hmmm, center of the earth = first level

Go deeper, get to N Korea = second level

Then shoot out into space ???


19 posted on 12/01/2014 11:46:55 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (/s /s /s /s /s, my replies are "liberally" sprinkled with them behind every word and letter.!)
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To: BlatherNaut

The Pope really needs some proof-readers and a TelePrompTer


20 posted on 12/01/2014 11:48:21 AM PST by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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