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To: metmom
Wrong. It did fine because they already had Scripture in the OT, which Jesus Himself validated in His use of it and His calling it Scripture.

The early Church did fine, without recourse to the Old Testament. The dispute which arose at Antioch was about circumcision and was not settled by recourse to a book. The Old Testamant was of no use and the New Testament had not been written. Paul and Barnabas returned to Jerusalem to confer with the "apostles and ancients".

Well?

And the HOLY SPIRIT gave us Scripture, not the Catholic church.

So the two are mutually exclusive? Silly. A true dance with words. As if the Holy Spirit dropped it out of the sky. An imbecile can tell you that Scripture was written, compiled and canonized by men under the influence of the Holy Spirit. There was a defined period in Christian history when there was a Church and no New Testament. In fact, Paul's letters, many of which we now know as Scripture, were written precisely because of this. They were letters of instruction, written from an apostle, to nascent Christian churches, in the absence of any New Testament. The Christians in Ephesus and Corinth read them as such and not as Scripture. That came later when the Church compiled it.

Which makes the following statement of yours, ridiculous........

And no, the church cannot do fine without Scripture. It WILL go into error without it as an anchor.

You have it exactly, backwards. Congratulations! The reality is that Scripture, separated from Apostolic Tradition, will be used to teach error. As indeed it is.

Look around you. Look at what has happened since the Reformation! The cacophony of conflicting voices all using "Scripture" to justify their half-baked theology is overwhelming and can not be ignored. There's going to be a "rapture", the Bible sez so....no it doesn't. We're predestined by God....no we're not, we have free will...God wants you to be prosperous....no he doesn't.....etc, etc, etc.

These are not minor points of theology as you so flippantly claimed in a previous post. They are glaring errors and are a source of scandal!

370 posted on 12/11/2014 7:09:34 AM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow
The reality is that Scripture, separated from Apostolic Tradition, will be used to teach error.

Mighty bold talk for a one-eyed fatman!


Acts 8:26-39
 

26 And the angel of the Lord spake unto Philip, saying, Arise, and go toward the south unto the way that goeth down from Jerusalem unto Gaza, which is desert.

27 And he arose and went: and, behold, a man of Ethiopia, an eunuch of great authority under Candace queen of the Ethiopians, who had the charge of all her treasure, and had come to Jerusalem for to worship,

28 Was returning, and sitting in his chariot read Esaias the prophet.

29 Then the Spirit said unto Philip, Go near, and join thyself to this chariot.

30 And Philip ran thither to him, and heard him read the prophet Esaias, and said, Understandest thou what thou readest?

31 And he said, How can I, except some man should guide me? And he desired Philip that he would come up and sit with him.

32 The place of the scripture which he read was this, He was led as a sheep to the slaughter; and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:

33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.

34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?

35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.

36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.

38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.

39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.

375 posted on 12/11/2014 7:20:16 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: marshmallow
The early Church did fine, without recourse to the Old Testament.

You know that how?

It's interesting as Jesus profusely quoted Scripture to validate (for lack of a better word) Himself.

And those Jews. They KNEW Scripture. They were raised with it. Their whole lives revolved around keeping the Law.

What a bunch of nonsense. The whole of the OT pointed to Christ. It was through the prophecies that people would recognize Him when He came.

So the two are mutually exclusive?

The Holy Spirit gave us Scripture. The Catholic church did not give us Scripture.

Tradition without Scripture is simply fairy tales and fables.

God's word is settled forever in heaven.

Anyone who downplays Scripture in supreme important has fallen for the oldest lie in the book. *Hath God really said....????*

They who downplay Scripture are already deceived.

513 posted on 12/11/2014 12:09:09 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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