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To: DuncanWaring

And the fact that Catholics use the word “pray” to describe requests of Mary likewise does not mean we worship her.


I can except that and what about the idea that she is in heaven which is what i tend to believe and why would we believe she is in heaven.

In other words is Mary and many other saints in heaven because we are living in the last day, the day that Christ is lifting us up or is she and other Saints there because of a special resurrection in which i do not believe?


457 posted on 12/15/2014 10:35:45 AM PST by ravenwolf (` Does the scripture explain it in full detail? if not how can you?)
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To: ravenwolf

I make no claims to know the details of the actions of God.

There is a certain amount of physical evidence that praying to some of those who have gone before us has a demonstrable effect in this life, in cures of diseases that have no earthly medical explanation. A couple of examples -

Pope John Paul II:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/10783125/The-miracle-that-earned-John-Paul-II-his-sainthood.html

Archbishop Fulton Sheen:
http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/features/2014/07/01/fulton-sheen-and-the-miracle-of-baby-james/


521 posted on 12/15/2014 12:29:06 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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