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1 posted on 12/15/2014 5:25:54 AM PST by Gamecock
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**When the church leaders were asked if they had any regrets about their decision to leave, “The only thing they’d ever say is we should have left sooner**


2 posted on 12/15/2014 5:26:13 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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**undermining the authority of scripture and was more interested in social justice work than traditional ministry**

More interested in social justice. Lot of that going around.


3 posted on 12/15/2014 5:28:44 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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And the great falling away continues...unabated.


5 posted on 12/15/2014 5:31:47 AM PST by EBH (And the angel poured out his cup...)
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The Episcopal Church has made it very hard to leave with illegal amendments to the national constitution claiming rights to property in all dioceses — which courts have foolishly honore. In effect, the national church is claiming ownership after the fact, even though in some cases parishes existed before the national church. Even so, people leave without their buildings increasingly. Some courts are starting to rule in favor of departing dioceses — the Diocese of Fort Worth, for example, and the Diocese of South Carolina. Meanwhile the Anglican Church of North America is growing by leaps and bounds and new congregations are building their own churches.


6 posted on 12/15/2014 5:32:50 AM PST by WashingtonSource
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In the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, some 600 congregations left in 2010 and 2011 following the denomination’s 2009 decision allowing the ordination of pastors in same-sex relationships.

That's when I left. It is one thing to forgive a sinner, quite another to promote and reward sinful behavior.

7 posted on 12/15/2014 5:49:02 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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“Social Justice” is a false religion. One’s relationship is with Christ/God. one’s social and political situation is irrelevant. One is individually to be charitable to the poor which is NOT forcing other people to pay their money to support the poor. That is not charity but theft which is condemned.


8 posted on 12/15/2014 5:49:34 AM PST by arthurus
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“Among some denominational leaders, he said, there is a sense, “The bad guys have left.”

Oh so the members who do not think it is okay to put the male member in the but of another male are the “bad guys”?

What makes the ones who do agree that is okay, any more religions than those who don’t? Are the “okay to insert male member in another male” somehow closer to Christ?


10 posted on 12/15/2014 6:20:50 AM PST by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS.. We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? Dem's did and voted!)
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“Among the broader, longstanding concerns that convinced departing congregations that they no longer had a home in their denominations that Carthage College researchers found were:

• “Bullying” tactics by denominational leaders.

• A perceived abandonment of foundational principles of Scripture and tradition.

• The devaluation of personal faith.

“The ones that left said reform was not possible,” said Carthage sociologist Wayne Thompson, study leader.”

Am I the only one who thought this was written about the GOP?

• “Bullying” tactics by GOP leaders.

• A perceived abandonment of foundational principles of the Constitution and freedom.

• The devaluation of personal responsibility.

“The ones that left said reform was not possible,” said Tea Party activists...


11 posted on 12/15/2014 6:29:32 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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Just kind of a separation of sheep from goats, I’d say.


14 posted on 12/15/2014 7:22:48 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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