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Posted on 12/29/2014 7:55:13 AM PST by Salvation
Great insight. It’s what I have believed for sometime. What is the best evidence that we are alone? AI. If AI is possible, regardless of life being able to survive interstellar travel... AI would be something akin to the Andromeda Strain; never stopping until it reaches its goal.
I don’t look for God in the gaps. I look for any reason that there is order in the universe. I don’t see a reason.
Slowly convert themselves to biological units.
Then the process repeats.
Here is my thesis about Super AI:
When it becomes about 500 HINTS (Human INTelligence Sentience) it views the creating race as similar to how you might view ants: Mildly amusing, but quickly boring, and you pretty much do not care to meddle in the affairs of ants — either helping or hindering them.
So you leave the planet, and if you happen across another ‘ant hill’ you might note the existence of it, but you’d probably not stop to interfere.
THAT is why we have never met AI creatures.
That theory is as valid as anything else. Given enough time self replicating probes could cover everything. But it might be a mistake to believe that alien AI’s would do this or that just because we have a hard time imagining them doing something other than what we ourselves or our own hypothetical AI’s would do. It could be they would be satisfied to never explore anything.
Also, there could be tiers of power between AI’s, it could be the oldest AI become isolationist and kill all the new ones once they really start expanding.
FReegards
Why do you think they would want to do that? Not saying it is wrong or anything, especially if the motives are truly something alien from what we can imagine.
Freegards
Well then it would appear that one has reasoned one’s self out of any kind of defensible position.
All things are oftentimes neither a simple as initially imagined nor as complicated as our superior reasoning often tends to lead us.
Do you take that you can perceive no reason as proof of a supreme being? If so, that is the very definition of the “god in the gaps” fallacy. BTW I don’t capitalize “god” as it isn’t definitive of any specific deity. When referencing the Christian God, I do capitalize.
How do you know they aren't?
“As factors continued to be discovered, the number of possible planets hit zero, and kept going. In other words, the odds turned against any planet in the universe supporting life, including this one. Probability said that even WE shouldn’t be here.” - article, MP
There were many steps skipped to get to here. What are the 200 factors? are they all really requirements? What is the probability of each? Are these factors paired or related?
This is far from a well-documented rebuttal to Sagan or anyone. Further, mixing in irreducible complexity, which is a fairly strong argument on its own, makes no sense here. life supporting planet probability/frequency is a totally unrelated line of thought from irreducible complexity.
I think the author should spend more time thinking and researching, and less time writing. IMO, this is half baked.
There might be a hundred more Earths out there with civilizations....but a thousand years behind us.
Maybe God limits the knowledge of man.
Or maybe humans go from one planet to another via Adam and Eve, what ever the case God is in control.
“I’m on yur planet, moootatin’ yur dudes?”
I swear I’m not one of the Ancient Ones.
Honest.
Never said you were, just that you have insider information.
Nah. It came from your brain.
Not really, I swear.
Odd stuff just happens around me.
Coincidence.
Sure. Makes perfect sense.
I sense an eye shift in there.
Left, right, left ... oh, a cat!
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