The (Roman Catholic) Liturgical “Sign of Peace”: Move or Remove?

Crisis Magazinei ^ | December 29, 2014 | GERARD T. MUNDY

[Salvation]

*8Alter girls. How are we supposed to get vocations with alter girls?**

Maybe they are altered.

Ask boys at your parish to serve at the altar. Never ask girls. (And this from a female!??)

[jttpwalsh]

I just obeyed the rules - no girls allowed. Maybe the Church was a fan of The Little Rascals ? :)

http://www.pasadenaadv.com/2024/he-man-women-haters-clubs-better-watch-their-step/

[Salvation]

I’m with you. Boys only — then acolytes.

[virgil]

We don’t have them at my parish, but I’ve seen them, even at high Mass in the Cathedral downtown. They couldn’t find boys or men to do that?

[Salvation]

Disgraceful. What is happening in one parish in my city — only boys.

And every year they have one, two or even three vocations blossoming.

Another thing is to have 24/7 Adoration, which this parish does have.

Pray for vocations.

[Grateful2God]

Thank you! I owe a lot to all those people who cared enough about us and about the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass to make sure we learned.

[stanne]

Great.

But do they ever say ‘why don’t we do this the way the Catholics do? No

[Jeff Chandler]

I refer to it as “the Grope of Peace”.

[Jeff Chandler]

during Mass. it is NOT a Disney production.

It isn't? Then why does the music sound like a Disney musical?

[stanne]

I know. Right?

[jttpwalsh]

I’m with you

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Agreed - thanks !

[Jeff Chandler]

I never forget to carry a bottle hand sanitizer when I go to Mass.

Turn to the person next to you, and just before he reaches out his hand, show a sheepish grin and say, "Strep throat."

[BillyBoy]

>> Time to return to pre-Vatican II and lose the NO. Just say NO to NO. Just say NO to the protestantization of the Mass. <<

I would actually make the case that some of these "Tridentine mass ONLY" Catholics have more in common with the protestants, in the sense that they both argue what the early Christians did doesn't matter (for example, the liturgy was in Greek long before it was Latin), and we need to follow a system that was first set up in the 1600s because its the ONLY legitimate, authentic way to worship in Christianity.

[DesertRhino]

Shocking huh, that Baptists don’t sit there worried about why they don’t do things the Roman catholic way,,

[Heart-Rest]

"I think fist-bumping would be a good alternate. "

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[Heart-Rest]

"I’ve read somewhere that it is optional and have attended a Mass where it was not done."

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They usually do not have the congregation share the sign of peace with each other at the regular televised Masses on EWTN.

[Heart-Rest]

It sounds like the Maronite Catholic Church has a better way of doing that sign of peace (just like they have a better way of saying the "Our Father").

I wish there were more of those Maronite Catholic Churches in the USA.

[stanne]

No it’s not shocking

Follow the conversation if you want to jump in

Why do Catholics worry that they’re not doing things in the baptist way They don’t think, the baptists sure don’t care if they’re pleasing us ( nor should tgey)

[ConorMacNessa]

They are on a tight schedule. Our choir sang for "Mass For Shut-ins" at the National Shrine a few years ago. There was a man next to the camera holding up signs with the number of minutes remaining.

The last time I attend a Mass so short was daily Mass at my old parish, St. Mary's in Rockville, MD before Vatican II. Our pastor, Fr. Hahn, went through the liturgy like lightning. I never had the chance to go back and see how he handled the vernacular.

I have no particular objection to the "Sign of Peace." We do it in my parish - in the choir, most of us exchange handshakes - some do not. Similarly, some link hands during the Our Father, while others do out.

I have not researched the question of whether the "Sign of Peace" has any historical antecedent in the Liturgy.

"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"

This is the Arabic character "nun" – the first letter of the word "Nazarene." I post it as my avatar in solidarity with people of all faiths suffering persecution at the hands of Islam. Many of them are members of the oldest of our Christian Communities, dating from the days of the Apostles. They endure cruel, merciless and unrelenting persecution. They are Orthodox and Catholic, Protestant and Evangelical, Coptic, Pentecostal, and Baptist. To the persecutors they, and we, are all "Nazarenes."

[Heart-Rest]

That (simple handshakes) is how most people in our parish do it too (with some people choosing to just nod at the people directly around them, and couples often kissing each other).

For EWTN, I've wondered at times whether they ever held up some kind of sign like "Get a move on!" or something, if the priest's homily seemed to be getting a bit long and wordy for the constraints of the televised Mass.    :-)