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“Alas, Alas for the Great City!” An Urgent Plea for Prayer at the New Year!
Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 12-30-14 | Msgr. Charles Pope

Posted on 12/31/2014 8:27:36 AM PST by Salvation

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To: Former Fetus

Jonathan Cahn wrote a sequel to the Harbinger, called The Mystery of the Shemitah. I highly recommend it. It goes into a lot more detail.


21 posted on 12/31/2014 9:44:52 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Boogieman
Hold up a minute there, Boogie.

Msgr. Pope's not saying the WHOLE prophecy or that ALL prophecies were fulfilled in 70 AD. That would indeed be silly. He IS saying that at least one part of the dread prophecy was fulfilled: Jerusalem was smashed, the Temple destroyed, and not one stone was left upon another.

22 posted on 12/31/2014 9:48:39 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: Boogieman

That’s not preterism, and preterism is not Catholic doctrine.


23 posted on 12/31/2014 9:49:17 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: Former Fetus

**It will never be inhabited,
Nor will it be settled from generation to generation;
Nor will the Arabian pitch tents there,
Nor will the shepherds make their sheepfolds there. **

Interesting


24 posted on 12/31/2014 9:50:07 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: ShadowAce

Detail about what?

(I’ve read “The Harbinger.”


25 posted on 12/31/2014 9:51:19 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I took the good Monsignor’s writing to be about the Babylon (perhaps) of America in addition to other parts of the world.


26 posted on 12/31/2014 9:53:02 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Details about the timings and history of Shemitah—especially how it relates not only to the US, but the rest of the world.


27 posted on 12/31/2014 9:53:08 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; Boogieman
Note his words:

**But what of us? All those ancient kingdoms fell not merely because their time was up, but because of sin and the collapse that pride and sin bring. And as for us, how can a nation or culture stand that is increasingly permeated by pride, godlessness, corruption, fornication, abortion, sexual confusion, families in crisis, lack of sexual self-control, gluttony, drug use, alcoholism, rampant pornography, and ridicule of authority, tradition, and faith?**

To me, that is talking about the United States.

28 posted on 12/31/2014 9:56:12 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
It sure describes destruction in a scale hard to imagine! The previous verse makes it very clear: Will be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. Wow! That's why I believe that we have had (and will have) all short of types of Babylon, but the real thing is still to come. Of course we don't know what's going to happen to NYC... a nuclear bomb would surely make it qualify for the real Babylon... I don't remember where it is prophesied, I would have to look it up, but not only will the destruction be absolute, but it will take place in a very short period of time. Again, it makes me think on a nuclear attack.
29 posted on 12/31/2014 9:58:16 AM PST by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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To: Salvation

‘Pride of the Chaldeans’ ... is that not quite specifically naming the people associated to this Babylon of destruction?


30 posted on 12/31/2014 9:58:29 AM PST by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN; Former Fetus

True, but read the last half of the article, please.


31 posted on 12/31/2014 10:00:16 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: MHGinTN; Former Fetus
And what of us? Will we repent? Or will we be defiant and destined for destruction? Pray for America. Pray for the West. Pray for our culture, which still has great goodness but has succumbed to much corruption.
32 posted on 12/31/2014 10:02:15 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Rome is of no consequence today. We have these pre-conceived ideas about who Babylon is in the end, but like the author states, it is a system, which can apply to almost any political entity or nation today. It is worldliness as opposed to godly living. So, yes, it can be America, Italy, Germany, Israel, Malaysia, etc. Every denomination has their own theory as to who Babylon is, as well, with some blaming other denominations!

We are discipling a couple friends using the book, MULTIPLY. Very good book for this. We talked about Christian love and how it is displayed through love for other believers and unity. It will take severe persecution for unity and love to come to America, where we have to rely on the goodness of other believers not to betray us. ONLY when we are in the “same boat” will these attributes reveal themselves. The profane (tares) will be weeded out to evade persecution and the real Christians will remain. At that time we will realize that the gate IS narrow and few there be that find it. There are MANY professors of faith, but when the time of testing that is coming arrives, it will necessarily actualize the real number of true believers.

Yes, pray for repentance. Pray for our country to wake up to its spiritual calamity. And we need to start the repentance ourselves, like Daniel did when he was in Babylon. He repented of personal sins and national sins.


33 posted on 12/31/2014 10:05:18 AM PST by Shery (Pray for righteousness to be restored and for the peace of Jerusalem.)
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To: Salvation

I watched the video thinking I was might learn something, there was nothing there except a song and caskets and drunks and things.


34 posted on 12/31/2014 10:05:41 AM PST by ravenwolf
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Sorry that you did not see the warning in the video. The people praying. Those who has died and will die. The destruction that even one storm can leave. The destruction of alcoholism.

Are you ready for total destruction of the United States.


35 posted on 12/31/2014 10:11:17 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Exactly.


36 posted on 12/31/2014 10:15:43 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

“He IS saying that at least one part of the dread prophecy was fulfilled: Jerusalem was smashed, the Temple destroyed, and not one stone was left upon another.”

That’s an entirely different prophecy, not found in Revelation, so that can’t be what he is talking about.


37 posted on 12/31/2014 10:16:53 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Salvation

That is a common misconception, sure.


38 posted on 12/31/2014 10:19:45 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: Salvation
Yes, the United States of A Million Disorders. And old, exhausted, baby-killing, Christ-rejecting Europe. Lady Liberty' alter-ego, Conchita Wurst!
39 posted on 12/31/2014 10:24:35 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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To: Boogieman
Look again. Reading fast, it's not hard to miss whole paragraphs (as I know from experience!)

Jerusalem, the great city, the holy city, was utterly destroyed. 1.2 million Jewish people lost their lives in the conflagration. Jerusalem was burned, and when the Romans were finished, not one stone was left on another. Jesus had warned of this day in the Mt. Olivet discourses (Mark 13, Matthew 24, Luke 21) and had wept over Jerusalem: O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to you! How often would I have gathered your children together as a hen gathers her brood under her wings, and you would not! Behold, your house is forsaken and desolate (Matt 23:37-38).

He's not just talking about the Book of Revelation.

40 posted on 12/31/2014 10:27:48 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Point of clarification.)
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