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To: ravenwolf

Well, the chapter says it is more than influential, it says that the whore “rules over the kings of the earth”. The only way I can read that, in context with the revelation that the whore is a city, is to believe that the whore will be a city that is effectively the capitol of a world empire, which rules over all nations.

Daniel tells us that the “prince that will come”, who causes the “abomination of desolation” will do so in Jerusalem. This was confirmed by Christ in the Olivet discourse, specifically referring to Daniel’s prophecy. Then, John tells us in Revelation that the “great city” is where the Lord was crucified, and there is only one city described as “great” in that entire book (”Babylon the Great”). Then we are told that this whore, who has “Babylon the Great” written on her forehead, is a city, and that this city is accountable for the blood of the saints and prophets. We also have Jesus telling the Pharisees of Jerusalem that they are accountable for the blood of the prophets.

This is too many connections, explicit ones at that, for us to be searching around for other candidates. The whore, “Babylon the Great”, is Jerusalem, specifically apostate Jerusalem, whose people disobey God and reject Jesus until his final return. In Jeremiah 3, God speaks of both Israel and Judah as adulterous “harlots” whom he has written a bill of divorce. So, this is not new symbolism that the Jews of John’s day would have wondered about. They would have recognized those terms instantly as applying only to those who were once faithful to God, but had committed “spiritual adultery” by going after other gods.


77 posted on 12/31/2014 3:07:36 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

Well, the chapter says it is more than influential, it says that the whore “rules over the kings of the earth”.


You may be right but I see all kind of ways of ruling.

Yes, it says the great whore is a city but it also tells us that she sits on many waters,

And it tells us that she sits on a beast with seven heads and ten horns, that could mean that she is supported by the beast up until the eighth beast and the ten horns appear.

Rev 17
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

The mountains are not literal mountains they are kingdoms.

15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.

So it can not be a literal city.

I believe that excludes Jerusalem or any other literal city.


81 posted on 12/31/2014 4:13:25 PM PST by ravenwolf
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