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To: Seraphicaviary

“...everyone who argues Mary and Joseph acting in a “natural and law keeping” way are projecting our own common desires on a couple that have the answer to all desires in their midst. “

Couples are commanded by God to be fruitful and multiply. Were Mary and Joseph disobedient?

Couples are commanded by God to have sex and not to withhold it except for short periods of time for prayer. Your argument assumes a lifetime of abstinence that is in opposition to God’s command. Were they disobedient?

I find that your argument is one from silence and in opposition to God’s expressed will for couples.


127 posted on 01/17/2015 2:37:32 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Fruitful and multiply does not always mean children. Otherwise, childless couples would be accused of failing to obey the law through no fault of their own.

The command to be “fruitful and multiply” is not functionally equivalent to a command to have sex. That is only one way of meeting the command. The vast majority do, but it is not the only way. Marriage is is done for Gods purposes, not ours. Mary and Joseph were on a mission, and it did not require that they have sex. Anyone is free to think they did, but it does not make sense to me given the particulars of this situation.

I submit that Mary and Joseph not having sex, and not being disobedient, are not mutually exclusive propositions. Abstinence in this case is not in opposition to God’s command. Jesus was the focus here, not the couple.


129 posted on 01/17/2015 3:20:01 PM PST by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Everything you and I are putting out has been done for centuries. Neither of us is advancing any new arguments.

Tell me again how “What Language Did Jesus Speak” devolve into a centuries only unresolved position about Mary’s sex life?


131 posted on 01/17/2015 3:24:45 PM PST by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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