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Pope Pius XII on Large Catholic Families
OnePeterFive ^ | January 19, 2015 | Brian Wiliams

Posted on 01/20/2015 6:18:28 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: Mears

They talk to and counsel many married families. I think they know what’s going on.


21 posted on 01/20/2015 9:38:08 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: married21

**Is Japan or Russia happy about their relative lack of children? Or are they quite worried?**

The same question for China?


22 posted on 01/20/2015 9:39:35 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

China is having a weird problem due to too many male births compared to female. Instead of 1:1 it something like 116:100. In the hinterlands, there are starting to be kidnappings of women from nearby countries for brides. That’s where their one child policy got them. If a couple had a boy first, they stopped. if they had a girl first, a certain number of them would go on and try for a boy.

And China is also having another problem they never had before— people who won’t care for their elderly parents.

Finally, they are uncertain as to what China will be like when no one has siblings or cousins. Each family tree has no branches. How does that affect society? They are not sure.


23 posted on 01/20/2015 9:58:25 PM PST by married21 ( As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: fatima
People who let the media define their Pope really shouldn't bother going through the motions of pretending to be Catholic.

Talk about "powerful delusion."

24 posted on 01/21/2015 2:01:54 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: ebb tide; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
“Large families are the most splendid flower-beds in the garden of the Church; happiness flowers in them and sanctity ripens in favorable soil. Every family group, even the smallest, was meant by God to be an oasis of spiritual peace.

Pope Francis, after a visit to the largest Catholic nation in Asia, says Catholics may have a moral responsibility to limit the number of their children and need not reproduce "like rabbits.'' -http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/01/19/pope-birth-control-comments/22017365/

Pope Francis praised big families on Wednesday as a gift from God, after his comments that Catholics don't have to breed "like rabbits" made headlines this week.

On Wednesday, he gave a nod to big families, who may have felt somewhat insulted by his comments aboard the plane returning to Rome. Just weeks ago, Francis met with an association of large Catholic families to show his support. He said that while in the Philippines, it gave him great "consolation and hope to see so many large families who welcome children as a true gift of God. They know that every child is a blessing." - http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/pope-praises-big-families-rabbits-remark-28367234

In any case, unless there was advocation of artificial contraception, then as per RC recourse when faced with contradictions, RCs can say he was not speaking infallibly, and such is no more immutably binding than papal or conciliar decrees to exterminate the heretics from the land.

25 posted on 01/21/2015 2:53:17 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: ebb tide

2 Corinthians 6:14
Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers.

26 posted on 01/21/2015 4:36:11 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: fatima
I promised myself not to read this Pope for he is ripe for mistranslation.

Surely Rome has the equivalent of Obama's Press Secretary!

27 posted on 01/21/2015 4:38:05 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: married21
If a couple had a boy first, they stopped. if they had a girl first, a certain number of them would go on and try for a boy.

Many years ago, my next door neighbors (Catholic family) had 6 girls before they finally got a boy and stopped.

28 posted on 01/21/2015 4:39:33 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212
RCs can say he was not speaking infallibly

And they would be correct. Do your homework.

29 posted on 01/21/2015 7:51:25 AM PST by Campion
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To: bunkerhill7; ebb tide

I can’t help but be extremely alarmed by this pope. Last week, given the timing of his comments, he was obviously defending terrorists worldwide by saying one should expect punishment if they mock another’s religion. Now he tells Catholics to have less children while he has to know that muslims are breeding like rabbits. And for the trifecta he scolds us about global warming, which looks like a major tool that will be used in an attempt to control entire nations under one umbrella.

My only conclusion is that he is working for the enemy.


30 posted on 01/21/2015 8:41:27 AM PST by bramps (Go West America!)
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To: daniel1212

I’m thinking some traditional RCs would really like for Francis to make a state visit to Iran.


31 posted on 01/21/2015 9:08:58 AM PST by redleghunter (Your faith has saved you. Go in peace. (Luke 7:50))
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To: Campion
And they would be correct. Do your homework.

I have done homework and that was not the issue, but the weight RCs place on non infallible papal and conciliar statements and teaching in support of what they believe, then dismiss it as non infallible when it disagrees with them.

In addition is the degree of interpretation this can entail as well as their meaning, while deploring any personal interpretation of Scripture by Prots (which they interpret 2Pt. 1:20 as teaching).

How much RC teaching is even infallible versus non infallible, and on what non-interpretive source infallibly tells you what magisterial level does each teaching fall under? Both of is which is necessary to know manner of assent is requires, and if any dissent may be allowed.

That will take some homework.

32 posted on 01/21/2015 10:48:41 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: Campion; daniel1212
RCs can say he was not speaking infallibly

And they would be correct. Do your homework.

Having babies and raising families is a moral issue...You guys keep telling us he is infallible when speaking on moral issues...

33 posted on 01/21/2015 2:26:42 PM PST by Iscool
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To: ebb tide

And the current pope said Catholics do not have to breed like rabbits

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/01/20/378559550/pope-francis-says-catholics-dont-need-to-breed-like-rabbits


34 posted on 01/21/2015 4:18:11 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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To: daniel1212

Like most politicians, his story depends on the audience


35 posted on 01/21/2015 4:20:14 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Ga 4:16)
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