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To: Arthur McGowan
It is NEVER a valid use of Scripture to rip a word, phrase, or sentence from its context, as though it was intended to answer questions the author was not even thinking about.

Criticism from you one verse wonders...Accusing us of doing what you do...

The word 'all' means all regardless of who was in the audience at the time...Even Enoch and Elijah were sinners...

Rom_5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Mary was under the law...She was a sinner...

Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jn 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

This includes Mary...But ok, now the ball is in your court...Just provide one single verse showing Mary was sinless...

Well, we know you can't possibly do that so we'll skip that...

But to be honest, I am dumbfounded that people of your position don't know this stuff...

Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Rom_5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

This also applies to born again Christians who are not under the law...

Rom_7:7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet

Rom_7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

Are you getting any of this??? I have a feeling you aren't...

Mary was under the law...She knew what sin was and it would have been impossible for her not to sin...Jesus is the only person who never sinned...

I will draw your attention to the fact of these scriptures I posted that without the knowledge of the law, there can be no sin committed...Even under grace...

The law points out sin...If you don't know the law, you can not sin...Even what is referred to as the natural law of common sense...If you don't know it's a sin to lust after something and you do lust after something, it is not a sin...

God was pretty smart to lay out this stuff so we can't get confused with babies and the mentally incapable...If they don't know what the law is, they can not sin...

So, knowing that...KNOWING THAT, we can easily conclude that 'all have sinned' does leave a loophole...But as babies grow a little, they will become sinners...And unfortunately for you guys Mary does not fall into that loophole...

Mary knew the law...And as such, was a sinner...Mary was under the law...Mary knew she needed a Savior because she knew she was a sinner...Babies don't need a Savior, they are home free...

Mary was never sinless...Your religion doesn't have a jot or tittle to prove otherwise; it's just a pipedream that one of your religious ancestors made up...

So when Paul said 'all have sinned' we know it was referring to all who had knowedge of sin....And how do we know that??? Because we read the 'rest of the story'...

1,225 posted on 01/27/2015 7:46:18 PM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool
This includes Mary...But ok, now the ball is in your court...Just provide one single verse showing Mary was sinless

It comes right after the one where you show that she sinned...

When Jesus tossed the money changers out of the temple and turned over their tables, and deprived them of their livlehood, and cost them who knows how much money, and deprived their families of supper that night.......did He sin??

1,405 posted on 01/28/2015 5:41:31 PM PST by terycarl (common sense prevails over all)
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