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"Yet Mary still plays no role in our salvation. NONE."

Not in Jesus's perfect salvific act, the salvation of humanity being due to Christ alone and unassisted. But she fulfilled a role in God's plan that began with her consent to bear The Christ.

[mountn man]

Go back and read Eagleones post.

He is stating what you just said.

[ealgeone]

Not in Jesus's perfect salvific act, the salvation of humanity being due to Christ alone and unassisted. But she fulfilled a role in God's plan that began with her consent to bear The Christ.

That's a pretty big change in your position and a truthful admission I was making. Mary plays no role in our salvation. It's only through Christ.

However, based on your logic a lot of people played a role in the life of Christ. Joseph for raising Him and teaching Him carpentry, the Scribes He debated with, John, who Jesus called the greatest born among women.

Notice Mary was not addressed in this manner. Only John.

. This is yet another occasion when Mary could have been elevated in the Bible to the lofty status catholicism gives her, yet the Bible again does not afford her the status found only in the rcc.

It's only in non-biblical sources can the catholic find the status the rcc accords Mary.

I find that telling.