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How To Offend a Room Full of Calvinists [Calvinist Caucus]
Challies.com ^ | January 28, 2015 | Tim Challies

Posted on 01/28/2015 8:24:41 AM PST by Alex Murphy

Do you want to know how to make a Calvinist angry? Do you want to know how to offend a whole room full of them? Just bring up the old line about Reformed theology being incompatible with evangelism. We have all heard it, we have all read it, we have all rejected it.

It’s the word on the street, though, that Calvinists make poor evangelists. Many people are firmly convinced that there is a deep-rooted flaw embedded within Reformed theology that undermines evangelistic fervor. Most blame it on predestination. After all, if God has already chosen who will be saved, it negates at least some of our personal responsibility in calling people to respond to the gospel. Or perhaps it’s just the theological-mindedness that ties us down in petty disputes and nuanced distinctions instead of freeing us to get up, get out, and get on mission.

We like to answer this charge with facts. We go to the Bible to show that the sovereignty of God is not the snuff that extinguishes the ember of evangelistic fervor, but the spark that causes it to burst into flame. We go to the pages of Scripture to show that God’s sovereignty and human responsibility are not incompatible, but that people truly are both free and bound, that God both chooses some while extending the free offer of the gospel to all. We go to history to show that the great missionaries, great preachers, and great revivalists of days past were Calvinists, and that Reformed theology was what fueled their mission.

Those are good and valid responses. But, to quote the Bard, perhaps the lady doth protest too much. The Bible and history answer the charge. But do our lives? Do our churches?

When I look at myself, I have trouble finding a clear line extending from my Reformed theology to evangelistic zeal. I can easily draw a line from my Reformed theology to my beliefs about evangelistic zeal, and I can go to history and look to other men and women to draw a line from their beliefs about Reformed theology to evangelistic zeal.

But in moments of honesty, I have to own it: My life does not consistently display it. Too often I am the cliché. I have got the theory. I have got the facts. I have got the history. But I don’t have the zeal. Not often, anyway. Not often enough.

There are only so many times I can point to Jonathan Edwards, George Whitefield and the Great Awakening, or William Carey and the great missionary movement of the nineteenth century, or Charles Spurgeon and the countless thousands saved under his ministry. Sooner or later I have to stop looking at my heroes and look to myself. I can’t claim their zeal as my own. I can’t claim their obedience as my own.

It is my conviction—conviction rooted in close study of God’s Word—that Calvinism provides a soul-stirring motivation for evangelism, and that sharing the gospel freely and with great zeal is the most natural application of biblical truth. But it is my confession—confession rooted in the evidence of my own life—that my Calvinism too rarely stirs my soul to mission. The truths that have roared in the hearts and lives of so many others, somehow just whisper in me. The fault, I’m convinced, is not with God’s Word, or even with my understanding of God’s Word; the fault is with me.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: calvinism; violatedcaucus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

One of Satan’s most effective weapons is “religion”; folks have “it” and feel that they’ve “made it”. This snare is universal - and not one suffered solely by Calvinists.

In my circle of “Calvisnists” (actually a Baptist church), we take seriously the warning of Matthew 7:21–23, (where Jesus says) “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven”


41 posted on 01/28/2015 9:22:54 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: allendale
Still, your ignorance shows.

Here, I'll spell it out for you.

I'll even type slower hoping you might pick it up.

S-c-r-o-l-l
t-o
t-h-e
t-o-p
o-f
t-h-e
t-h-r-e-a-d.

S-e-e
t-h-e
t-i-t-l-e?

I-t
s-a-y-s
CALVANIST CAUCUS

42 posted on 01/28/2015 9:23:36 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Your caucus, knock yourself out.

WAIT!!!...as an Arvinist or Calminian, how do you read "knock yourself out"?

43 posted on 01/28/2015 9:25:53 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: aimhigh

Having a lot of respect for Sproul I would be interested to hear his response to your criticism (”Yet Jesus said, “Come to Me...”). My initial thought is that this is a more a case of semantics rather than doctrinal disagreement.

RE: your non-gospel “reformed” church: I would simply respond as I did above regarding “religion”.

The reality is that the Gospel is not (or should not) be viewed as a one-time event - “I accepted Christ when I was a teen-ager at camp, so now that I’m saved the Gospel doesn’t apply to me any longer.”

No. We need to pray and preach the Gospel to ourself every day. Every interaction should be sprinkled with Gospel grace (”there but for the grace of God go I...”).


52 posted on 01/28/2015 9:32:50 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Absolutely agree. We are SO prone to elevate ourselves...


55 posted on 01/28/2015 9:34:07 AM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
The more I see how filthy my heart is, the more I see how useless my works are in and of themselves, to make God love me enough to save me.

It is in those moments that I realize how wonderful and precious God's grace really is.

56 posted on 01/28/2015 9:34:31 AM PST by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: jonno

“In my circle of “Calvisnists” (actually a Baptist church), we take seriously the warning of Matthew 7:21–23, (where Jesus says) “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven””

You are narrowing the scope, and thereby missing the issue of the question. The question does not apply to your personal, subjective experience. It applies to any and every Calvinist. So let me rephrase the question...

“Does a Calvinist believe that the elect were ever in any REAL danger of going to hell?”


59 posted on 01/28/2015 9:39:42 AM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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