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To: editor-surveyor
There is no “gathered authority.”

The council at Jerusalem didn’t call for anything against scripture; they merely deferred to the teaching in the local synagogue to impart the remainder of the biblical requirements through teaching on “every Sabbath Day.”

It was a common sense counseling, recognizing that Torah took years to learn, and could not be imparted by will.

I think you need to read Act 15 again:

Because there arose no little dissension and debate by Paul and Barnabas with them, it was decided that Paul, Barnabas, and some of the others should go up to Jerusalem to the apostles and presbyters about this question. (Acts 15:2)
There was a local synagogue at Antioch but they ignored this and sent a delegation to Jerusalem. Nor was this delegation to meet with the Jewish synagogue officials but to the "apostles and presbyters."
This is the letter delivered by them: “The apostles and the presbyters, your brothers, to the brothers in Antioch, Syria, and Cilicia of Gentile origin: greetings.… It is the decision of the holy Spirit and of us … (Acts 15:23, 28)
They explicitly evoke the authority of the Holy Spirit for their decision. Additionally, they taught against the requirement for circumcision. Earlier, in Acts 10, Peter has a vision that negates the kosher dietary laws. Christianity is the fulfillment of the earlier Jewish covenants but it is also the deliverance from the Mosaic Law.
57 posted on 02/13/2015 2:02:57 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

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You demonstrate a severe lack of understanding of Yeshua’s way.

First, everything a believer does is supposed to be as guided by the Holy Spirit.

Paul was an apostle who had ordained many presbyters.

The local synagogue was a mixture of believers, and unbelievers, and its sole value was the necessary teaching of Torah. They had no authority, any more than the council that gathered at Jerusalem did.

Paul and his company journeyed to Jerusalem to discuss an important matter with his peers.

The distension was at the local synagogue, not in Jerusalem, with Pharisees that were not true believers, that sought to impose false authority on the recent converts.

Circumcision was of no effect after the resurrection.

Peter’s vision had absolutely nothing to do with dietary issues, and he explained that fully himself. It was that he was to call no man unclean.

“Christianity” is not a fulfillment of anything.

Yeshua’s shed blood on the cross is the fulfillment of Passover, and unleavened bread only, and Pentecost was fulfilled seven Sabbaths later as recorded in Acts.

There remain the fall feasts to be fulfilled, and Purim.

There is not nor ever will be a “deliverance” from Torah. The “deliverance” was from the false man made laws of the Pharisees.

Torah is our teaching in righteousness, by which we are conformed to Yeshua. This is stated clearly by Paul in Romans ch 2. It is also set out clearly by Yeshua in Matthew ch 5. If you need more detail it is contained in 1John, the entire epistle is dedicated to this fact.

The old covenant had been violated and had to be renewed in sinless blood. That is what Yeshua did on the cross.

A quick read of Acts 15:21 will show you that it was the intention of the council that the new believers learn Torah in the same fashion in which they had learned it themselves, by being taught every Sabbath day in their synagogue, and that was the reason that they concurred that the new converts be initially instructed in the basics: No Idols, and no blood or strangled meats.

If you desire “deliverance” from Torah, you will get your wish, at the Great White Throne.

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93 posted on 02/13/2015 4:33:24 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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