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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; CynicalBear; daniel1212; ...
Luther's tradition doesn't show up until 14 centuries after Christ.
The Assumption can be traced back at least to the fifth century in writing. Additionally, there are no relics of Mary, which would have been prized possessions in the early Church.
There is also biblical evidence supporting Mary's Assumption.

We know from Luke that Jesus has inherited the throne of David, and from Revelation that he holds the "key of David." Jesus is the King of the eternal, redeemed Davidic Kingdom, the Kingdom of God, or Christ's Church. In the ancient Davidic kingdom, the mother of the king, the "Gebirah" or "Queen Mother" held a position greater than that of the wives of the king. The Bible records her sitting on a throne at the right hand of the king

Really ?? Do you have any scripture on this ?? Interesting that Mary holds higher position than Jesus ... I missed that somewhere ???

Now time for the ONE TIME that the queen mother sat at her sons "right hand"...HERE IS HE REST OF THE STORY...as they say

1 Kings 2:22King Solomon answered and said to his mother, "And why are you asking Abishag the Shunammite for Adonijah? Ask for him also the kingdom-- for he is my older brother-- even for him, for Abiathar the priest, and for Joab the son of Zeruiah!" 23Then King Solomon swore by the LORD, saying, "May God do so to me and more also, if Adonijah has not spoken this word against his own life. 24"Now therefore, as the LORD lives, who has established me and set me on the throne of David my father and who has made me a house as He promised, surely Adonijah shall be put to death today."…25So King Solomon sent Benaiah the son of Jehoiada; and he fell upon him so that he died.…

Oppps guess momma "sitting at the right hand" of the king...didn't help with her "intercessory plea huh?

BTW as Reformed believers, we use scripture to interpret scripture.. not write in our own meaning ...there is NO OTHER passage that says or implies the kings mother has a regular seat on the right hand of the king

Mary, as Jesus' mother, is the Queen Mother of the eternal, redeemed Davidic kingdom. She is the Queen of Heaven, as seen in Revelation.

Just another misrendering of scripture by Rome..

Rev12:1A great sign appeared in heaven:

Notice the prophet John did not say he saw Mary (that he knew and cared for.. he said he saw A SIGN ..Like all of Revelation this is PROPHETIC in nature..ant o replay

The end of this vision makes clear that this IS NOT MARY ..read on ..

Rev12;13And when the dragon saw that he was thrown down to the earth, he persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. 14But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she could fly into the wilderness to her place,... Did Mary ever grow wings and fly away?I missed that statue in the churches..

Most see the Woman as Israel .. but then most do not ned a goddess

The Case for the Assumption of Mary <<<<<<<<<<

Show me the scripture.. I have no interest in doctrinal fiction

60 posted on 02/16/2015 5:05:00 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Wonderful, patient response to this Mary nonsense.

I look forward to the day I meet Mary in heaven. I've always wondered if she knew who Jesus really was before the resurrection. I'm inclined to believe she thought He was a prophet, maybe the Messiah, but I doubt she had any idea He was God in man.

74 posted on 02/16/2015 7:26:15 PM PST by wmfights
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To: RnMomof7
And, let's not forget that Solomon's mom was Bathsheba...you know, the adulterous wife that had an affair with King David, got pregnant, and after her husband was sent into battle for a sure death, married the king. Are RCs sure they want Mary compared to her?
83 posted on 02/16/2015 11:18:28 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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