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3 Things to Say to a Grieving Non-Christian
Aquilla Report ^ | February 18, 2015 | Megan Hill

Posted on 02/18/2015 6:48:34 AM PST by Gamecock

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To: Ken H

It’s not just Asians, it’s billion of Others who “suppress the truth in unrighteousness”, denying the clear revelation of their Creator through what has been made. Because of this willful suppression they are all “without excuse”.

That’s square one, from the book of Romans. According to other Scripture (John), everything that has been made, has been made THROUGH JESUS. That means Christ is being preached to man “through what has been made”.

Something for all of us to consider, since behind errant views of death and judgment often lie accusations against God, who is GOOD!


21 posted on 02/18/2015 8:07:45 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Salvation
which, of course, won’t help an atheist.

Which is of course the premise of this entire article, isn't it?

22 posted on 02/18/2015 8:07:53 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)
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To: Salvation

“I would tell them I am sorry for their loss..”

I would as well. I would show the same sympathy towards them as I would a Christian or Jewish friend. Why? Simply because I know God is watching me, my reactions and listening to the words I speak. If I could comfort a grieving person (and a child of God’s even if they don’t believe it).. then I have done the right thing. IMHO.


23 posted on 02/18/2015 8:12:51 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Ancient Man

dear ancient man,

For your kind endearing words;
“How about, “Get over it, they’re dead.””

Spoken at a time when someone just lost somebody close to them, someone that they loved and cherished, here is my retort ....

“UUMPH!!”

that’s me, applying the end of my size 10’s, to yo’ ‘nads, fool!


24 posted on 02/18/2015 8:13:51 AM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Gamecock

How about “Now that he’s/she’s dead, at least G-d ain’t gonna get any madder at him/her than He already is”?


25 posted on 02/18/2015 8:20:17 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Throne and Altar! [In Jerusalem!!!])
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To: Ken H

Very judgmental; fitting for many “Christians” who claim to possess spiritual superiority.

Why not join ISIS? They’re into this people burning thing.....


26 posted on 02/18/2015 8:22:47 AM PST by Loud Mime (Keep the Commandments; it's better than gambling on forgiveness.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

The latter part of Luke 16 seem to give the best view of dying, both for the faithful and unfaithful, and we cannot expect someone “...from the dead...” to teach us more perfectly...Jesus died, came back from the dead and is our teacher today (Hebrews 1:1-2).


27 posted on 02/18/2015 8:23:38 AM PST by jennings2004 ("What difference, at this point, does it make!"!)
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To: avenir
It’s not just Asians,...

Yes, but they had tiny numbers of even nominal Christians over the centuries vs Europeans.

Why did such an extremely high percentage of Asians in particular choose to burn forever?

28 posted on 02/18/2015 8:26:10 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: jennings2004
Suppose someone you dearly loved died an unbeliever.

Could you be happy in the afterlife knowing what is in store for him or her?

29 posted on 02/18/2015 8:44:19 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Ken H

I can’t know what motivates your question. My answer for my own fallenness is a firm “let God be true and every man a liar”. I agree with God against myself. Beautiful truth is that He swore BY HIMSELF (Who cannot lie) an oath that resulted in eternal salvation for any human being who comes to Him through Christ.

Why did so many Asians refuse his offer? Why did so many Kens? But you are alive, praise God, so BELIEVE in the ONE HE SENT!


30 posted on 02/18/2015 8:46:30 AM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Ken H
Suppose someone you dearly loved died an unbeliever.
Could you be happy in the afterlife knowing what is in store for him or her?


I don't know, but I there will be tears in Heaven. I also know no matter how deep we love someone it paled in comparison to God's love. I'm afraid in such circumstance there are no glib tongued answers, nor any comfort to be offered.
31 posted on 02/18/2015 9:00:09 AM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: Ken H

Why do you assume that these Asian millions are choosing to burn? A man chooses to be damned only when he has had the Gospel of Christ fairly presented to him and then consciously rejects it despite the opportunity to understand and believe. The vast majority of these people have not heard the Gospel preached. They are raised in complete ignorance of Christ and His sacrifice for us. The Lord will judge each of is by the Luther we have been given, so the man who was raised in a North Korean concentration camp and never saw beauty or human compassion can’t be held to the same standard as someone who had the grace of a sweet, safe, loving Western childhood with exposure to God’s Word and to many blessings.


32 posted on 02/18/2015 9:01:32 AM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: avenir
Why did so many Asians refuse his offer?

My question was actually why such an extremely high percentage of Asians chose to burn forever vs Europeans, most of whom were nominally Christian. IOW, most Euros took a necessary (but not sufficient) first step toward salvation.

One might say the vast majority of Asians didn't even try to make it to first base with Jesus:)

33 posted on 02/18/2015 9:02:46 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Gamecock

“Just as only Christians truly appreciate the sadness of death.”

Not sure I buy that. When I die, I know where I’m going. When an atheist dies, they are just dead - forever. Reminds me of the android’s poem at the end of Blade Runner:

“All these memories
will be lost
like tears in the rain”

Androids knew that once they died, that was it, and they fought like hell against that four year life span.

Christians can afford to be pretty sanguine at least, and pretty stoked at best, to find out that death is right around the corner.

I’ve asked questions like, “Do you think he’s really gone?” or “Where do you think he went?”

People grieving after someone they loved are pretty open to the idea that maybe they don’t really have to be gone, and that there might be a strong possibility you are going to see them again.

They make react strongly to the suggestion at the time (only one has), but most ask me what I meant by the question. Now you have an opportunity to explain it.


34 posted on 02/18/2015 9:15:51 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: RinaseaofDs
When an atheist dies, they are just dead - forever.

When you say 'dead', do you mean their consciousness does not survive?

35 posted on 02/18/2015 9:23:10 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Ken H

Kind of like a fish. When I catch a fish, I cook it, then I eat it.

It’s dead.

To an atheist, there’s no God. No heaven, no hell, just being and then not being.


36 posted on 02/18/2015 9:27:43 AM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: ottbmare

“A man chooses to be damned only when he has had the Gospel of Christ fairly presented to him and then consciously rejects it despite the opportunity to understand and believe. “

If this is true then taking the gospel to the ignorant is a criminal act. The majority will reject the offer and now that they are now longer ignorant, they will be condemned to burn for eternity. Whereas before they were safe in their ignorance.

The gospel becomes “bad news” for billions of people who would have been okay had they been left in their ignorance.


37 posted on 02/18/2015 9:33:35 AM PST by Lucas McCain (Liberalism is the willful embrace of abject stupidity.)
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To: RinaseaofDs
So you believe there is no eternal suffering in the afterlife.

I'm in agreement, but it seems we are in the minority on this thread:)

38 posted on 02/18/2015 9:35:15 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Grieving is a selfish act. The dead do not care, they’re dead after all. The grieving shouldn’t make it all about them. So, “get over it, and get on with living.”

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Demonstrative of one who knows human nature not in the slightest. Grieving is the act of a human being.

Unless you’re a sociopath.

There is a difference between grieving and wallowing in one’s own self pity.


39 posted on 02/18/2015 9:45:27 AM PST by dmz
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To: Gamecock

When someone is mourning a death you comfort them as best you can in love and kindness. Most people understand that death is part of life and we will all be there someday but even when you understand this it still hurts tremendously. Look for an opportunity to be the salt and light Jesus calls on us to be and look for an opportunity to witness. I have seen dozens of times when a self proclaimed atheist opened up to hearing the Gospel during a time of great trial. I truly believe that often God puts us in trials to open us up to him. Most people, even atheists, understand when someone is engaging them with a true loving spirit and appreciate it, even if they ultimately reject the specifics. Just knowing someone truly cares can be a tremendous comfort.


40 posted on 02/18/2015 9:58:00 AM PST by circlecity
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