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To: aMorePerfectUnion; IWONDR
'Son of God' was presented in Scripture as a metaphor that could be understood. If the three 'person' Trinity is examined however, it is NOT supported in Scripture - it is a fabrication of a Catholic council.

The infinite cannot be divided - if it is, the result will no longer be infinite. There cannot be more than one infinite or everything. From Swedenborg: God's Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnipresence do not come within the scope of the human understanding because God's Omnipotence is infinite power, God's Omniscience is infinite wisdom, and Omnipresence is infinite presence in all the things that have gone forth and that do go forth from Him; and indeed the Infinite Divine does not come within the scope of a finite understanding.

As for Scripture, have you looked at Isaiah on this?

Isaiah 25:9 And it will be said in that day:
“Behold, this is our God;
We have waited for Him, and He will save us.
This is the Lord [Jehovah];
We have waited for Him;
We will be glad and rejoice in His salvation.”

Does Jehovah not mean 'The Father?

Isaiah 40:3 The voice of one crying in the wilderness: “Prepare the way of the Lord; Make straight in the desert A highway for our God.4 Every valley shall be exalted And every mountain and hill brought low; The crooked places shall be made straight And the rough places smooth; 5 The glory of the Lord shall be revealed, And all flesh shall see it together; For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.”

Same thing: Jehovah is the Lord the Father.

You say Scripture teaches - where?

Paul teaches in Colossians 3:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

'Godhead' is Godhood or Godness.

In other words, ALL Divinity is present within Jesus Christ.

For a complete Bible Study on this, see 12/3/14 The Son of God

73 posted on 02/22/2015 9:52:47 AM PST by DaveMSmith (Evil Comes from Falsity, So Share the Truth)
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To: DaveMSmith
From Swedenborg:???

Nuff said.

He's a false teacher.

It doesn't matter what he said. It matters what Scripture says.

74 posted on 02/22/2015 11:43:58 AM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: DaveMSmith; aMorePerfectUnion; IWONDR; metmom
The infinite cannot be divided - if it is, the result will no longer be infinite.

The Godhead is undivided in substance, but divided in person. This is the explicit teaching of the scripture, such as John 1:1 where it says "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." Thus the Word is both separate ("with God") and united ("was God"). These are not two gods, but two persons (three with the Holy Spirit) who are but one God.

From Swedenborg: God's Omnipotence, Omniscience, and Omnipresence

Speaking of omnipotence, Christ is called "almighty" in Revelation. There cannot be two almighties (a father and a son separate almighty), but only one Almighty. Thus these three (the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) are one.

Rev_1:8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

Does Jehovah not mean 'The Father?

Jehovah means "self-existent one", IOW, one who is not created.

For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; 'Godhead' is Godhood or Godness. In other words, ALL Divinity is present within Jesus Christ.

Yes, indeed. This proves his divinity, not His created status.

77 posted on 02/22/2015 12:38:11 PM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: DaveMSmith

DaveMSmith...

Swedenborg is a cult. Let’s start there. This casts your opinions as posted under suspicion form the getgo.

After that, what you wrote falls far short of Scripture.

You wrote, “... a fabrication of a Catholic council.”

Yet we do not need a Catholic council today to examine Scripture and see that Christ has every attribute of God. We see what He claimed for Himself. We see what Scripture teaches. This is the joy of having God’s Word to examine now.

You wrote, “the infinite cannot be divided.”

No Christian teaches that the Godhead is divided ever.

You wrote, “There cannot be more than one infinite or everything.”

No Christian teaches that more than ONE God exists.

I’m afraid you’ve accepted the cultic Swede views friend.

Christ awaits you now. The real One. The Christ who is fully God. The Christ who died for the sins of everyone - you included.


78 posted on 02/22/2015 1:06:33 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: DaveMSmith

I see you’ve commented on #42.

I’ll wait until you get up to #54


84 posted on 02/22/2015 1:23:13 PM PST by Elsie
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