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To: metmom; terycarl
How can being secure in your salvation be *dangerous*?

It is called the "Sin of Presumption." The Pharisees and Sadducees had it and so does anyone that believes in OSAS.

Luke 18:11"The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.

31 posted on 02/25/2015 2:00:32 AM PST by verga (I might as well be playing Chess with a pigeon.)
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To: verga
Luke 18:11"The Pharisee stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: swindlers, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector.

Elsie 8:19 "The Catholic stood and was praying this to himself: 'God, I thank You that I am not like other people: Protestants, Lutherans, Muslims, or even like this jerk on FR!

41 posted on 02/25/2015 4:13:52 AM PST by Elsie
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To: verga
The Pharisees and Sadducees had it and so does anyone that believes in OSAS.

Romans 8:38-39
For I am convinced that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor things present, nor things to come, nor powers, nor height, nor depth, nor any other created thing, will be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

42 posted on 02/25/2015 4:15:42 AM PST by Elsie
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To: verga
Mat 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Ever break a commandment???

Mat 5:20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

I am going to make a guess that you are never going to make it...Your righteousness will never exceed the righteousness of the Pharisees and scribes...You may as well give up...

Mat 5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.

More of the same...

Mat 5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
Mat 5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

What kinds of gifts do you Catholics bring to the altar??? What altar???

Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.

And what prison would that be??? Is your phoney purgatory a prison??? Can people be sent to hell and then pay their way out??? How much money or farthings does it take to get out of this prison???

You see any Gentiles in the bunch??? You ever notice there's not even a church within miles (or years) from there??? Do you realize these people are under the law and there's no grace involved anywhere there???

And it's obvious you don't have any idea what the Kingdom of Heaven is...

What happened after that is Jesus died, on the Cross...He became our sacrifice so people wouldn't have to go to prison for their sin...After these here Jews rejected Jesus, he went to the Gentiles (who these Jews were forbidden to even talk to) and offered them a free ride to heaven...Without the law...By Jesus' grace it was a free gift...One only had to believe in and trust Jesus...

Christians are covered by grace...We don't need any farthings...Jesus paid it all...

All you need is a bible and a Protestant to help you learn what God says to you...

93 posted on 02/25/2015 12:31:25 PM PST by Iscool
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