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How We Got the Bible
For the Love of His Truth ^ | May 19, 2012 | John MacArthur

Posted on 02/24/2015 7:04:16 PM PST by redleghunter

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To: RinaseaofDs
With science, it is fact coming out of the gate.

Ha, ha, HA!

201 posted on 02/26/2015 12:48:52 PM PST by Elsie
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To: RinaseaofDs
Either you can construct an experiment that proves your assertions or you can’t.

Goodbye evolution...

202 posted on 02/26/2015 12:49:28 PM PST by Elsie
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To: crusty old prospector; Elsie; Colofornian

“3. Since there have not been, nor now are, any authorized prophets or apostles in either the Old Testament and New Testament sense, there are not any potential authors of future inspired, canonical writings. God’s Word, “once for all delivered to the saints,” is never to be added to, but to be earnestly contended for (Jude 3).”


Heck Joseph Smith got to make up scripture calling out his first wife BY NAME and telling her that God wanted Joseph to have lots of wives and to deny him that would be denying God:

“[I]f she receive not this law ... she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt[.]”

https://www.lds.org/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/132.20?lang=eng

What a deal!!


203 posted on 02/26/2015 12:53:11 PM PST by freedomlover
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To: af_vet_1981; Elsie
There's Luther, ....Oh. Wait. Those are Roman Catholics!


204 posted on 02/26/2015 12:56:06 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Infantry officer.)
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To: Elsie
I'm interested in how the Book of Numbers, in the OT, gets taught in the Catholic Church.

It isn't "taught". It is read as part of the Canon of Scripture.

205 posted on 02/26/2015 1:10:07 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: Elsie

Indeed.

A mountain of evidence to support adaptation, nothing to support evolution.

In fact, if you look at the latest BS coming out of the spin machine, they’ve taken to calling anything related to evolution ‘adaptive evolution’.

They are backing way off on it. You just can’t make the leap between snail and dolphin.


206 posted on 02/26/2015 1:11:44 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: don-o
I am an Orthodox Christian.

Ok. I thought you were the husband of Mrs. don-o, and thus i assumed you were both RC. But while EO theology tends to be less technical and precise, and it would seem you are at odds with the premise than a perpetually infallible papal magisterium is essential, would you care to explain why none of my questions apply to you?

207 posted on 02/26/2015 2:18:17 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
would you care to explain why none of my questions apply to you?

Perhaps you could ask one question at a time. And perhaps you would address mine in post 59.

208 posted on 02/26/2015 2:29:49 PM PST by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
Even evolutionists will not handle how LIFE started; but I will!!

HMMMmmm...

I wonder just how many time the right combo of chemicals and energy got together to create LIFE out of non-life?

Remember; LIFE has to be ETERNAL; or else it dies a while after it gets started.

Life HAD to be created with the ability to CONTINUE onward.

209 posted on 02/26/2015 3:33:36 PM PST by Elsie
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To: redleghunter

Yes, I am. I normally have that in my tagline, but I’m running a freep-a-thon tagline, because I’m truly concerned that we have something special here that we should protect. Our voices are amongst ourselves, and the good ideas permeate out through our various personal networks, and sometimes Free Republic hits a triple or homer that gets widely disseminated.

This is a valuable voice, and I want it to continue.


210 posted on 02/26/2015 3:42:57 PM PST by xzins (I Donated to the Freep-a-Thon - You Should, Too! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: don-o
I do not understand. Are you positing a difference between Bible and Scripture?

Yes and no.

Scripture is Scripture, God breathed and Holy Spirit inspired.

The Bible is a collection of all recognized Scripture.

The problem is coming in with Catholics regularly and routinely giving the RCC credit for giving the world the Bible, therefore making them qualified somehow to be infallible interpreters of SCRIPTURE.

Well compiling all Scripture into one handy compendium is not feat of genius and does not qualify anyone to interpret it.

So, there is no need to *thank* the Catholic church for giving us the Bible because the Catholic church did not give the world SCRIPTURE. God did that.

211 posted on 02/26/2015 6:48:04 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: xzins; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; ...

Excellent analogy.......


212 posted on 02/26/2015 6:54:06 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: aposiopetic
>The 27 books of the New Testament have been universally accepted since ca. a.d. 350-400 as inspired by God.<

Yes. By whom were they universally accepted?

The early church.

213 posted on 02/26/2015 7:07:44 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: NKP_Vet
A very long article entitled “How We Got The Bible”, and no where is the Catholic Church mentioned.

maybe because the Catholic Church as you understand it didn't exist at the time!

214 posted on 02/26/2015 7:09:01 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: NKP_Vet

If you want to give credit to man please be my guest. I personally owe nothing to any man or man made institution for the Bible or my Salvation. All of my Praise and Worship goes to God for by his Love, Mercy, and Grace I was saved.

Acts 17:24-25 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

24 The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things;

John 1:3 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.

John 1:1 New American Standard Bible (NASB)

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.


215 posted on 02/26/2015 7:50:30 PM PST by mrobisr
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To: xzins
I couldn't agree more! I'm upping my monthly contribution from $30 to $50 in your honor! ☺
216 posted on 02/26/2015 7:52:09 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: xone
But a polemic from the 16th century by an author long dead is relevant?

Yes. Even in old age he conspired against real Jewish refugees in order to physically harm them. Were Jews robbed, raped, and murdered as a direct result of his conspiracy ? Probably. Jews were prey, and to deprive them of legal protection and sanctuary among the Gentiles was at least a rape sentence for the women. In any case he will stand trial for his works. His hatred of Jews is a denial of the Gospel and an abrogation of the commandment of Messiah. He poisoned not only Germany, but much of Europe. His religion is a cruel farce and those with his spirit are false brethren. They corrupt the scriptures in their own image.

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly; And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly; And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked: (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds;) The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished: But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities. Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord. But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption; And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you; Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children: Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet. These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever. For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error. While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning. For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
-Second Peter, Catholic chapter two, Protestant verses one to twenty two, as authorized by King James

217 posted on 02/26/2015 8:04:24 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: boatbums; xzins; onyx

Thank you very much, boatbums and xzins!!


218 posted on 02/26/2015 8:43:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: xzins; boatbums; Jim Robinson

Yes, I am. I normally have that in my tagline, but I’m running a freep-a-thon tagline, because I’m truly concerned that we have something special here that we should protect. Our voices are amongst ourselves, and the good ideas permeate out through our various personal networks, and sometimes Free Republic hits a triple or homer that gets widely disseminated.

This is a valuable voice, and I want it to continue.

210 posted on 02/26/2015 3:42:57 PM PST by xzins (I Donated to the Freep-a-Thon - You Should, Too! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)

To: xzins
I couldn't agree more! I'm upping my monthly contribution from $30 to $50 in your honor! ☺
216 posted on 02/26/2015 7:52:09 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)


To: boatbums; xzins; onyx

Thank you very much, boatbums and xzins!!

218 posted on 02/26/2015 8:43:06 PM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)




So Much,

Dearest xzins and boatbums!

219 posted on 02/26/2015 9:00:09 PM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: boatbums; onyx; Jim Robinson

Thank you so much, boatbums. I’ve thought about this, and it’s true, our voices on Free Republic get heard. If it goes down, then where exactly do conservatives go for this kind of conversation, reflection, or opportunities for activism.


220 posted on 02/27/2015 3:14:10 AM PST by xzins (I Donated to the Freep-a-Thon - You Should, Too! https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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