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To: delchiante; Jeremiah Jr; amorphous

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You can’t use the words of a weak English translation as the customs of ancient Israel, but that is exactly what you’re trying to do.

Your whole theology is comic book.
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130 posted on 03/25/2015 2:25:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor; Jeremiah Jr; amorphous

Another non answer.

I can used the Hebrew.,.

I can ask you about Leviticus 6:19-20..

And YHWH says to Moses, saying this is the oblation of Aaron and of his sons, which they shall offer to YHWH in the Day when he is anointed.
The tenth part of an ephah of fine flour for a meal offering perpetually, half of it in the MORNING ( boqer-strongs(same word used in Genesis creation) 1242- break or ‘day’ , morning, every morning) and half of it in the EVENING( Hebrew Rev( same word used in genesis creation * strings 6153- evening. Twilight, dusk, the fading of the day)..

offerings in the Morning and in the Evening,. In that order..
Why is it listed in that order by YHWH if He wanted a Day to start with an evening offering?

There is another of those types in Leviticus 7 but one day at a time..

There really is a reason for all this.. and it goes to when you observe His Feasts..

Because this coming Feast will not be observed at the same ‘time’ it was in 2014 and there is a reason for it.. and I gave that reason a few posts ago..

If people are still checking in I can show you with Passover last year and Passover this year that two different standards are being used and it can simply be proved by counting..

That is why I am detailing what ‘Day’ it is so people can do their own count to see if what I am saying has merit..

Today is His 4th Day of His week and also His 5th day of His month.. It is the 5th day people should keep up with as it will help in showing that Passover in 2014 was observed on Abib 14, in the ‘evening, but for 2015, it will be observed on Abib 13, in the evening..

Only one of those can be possible.. or scriptural..

When the same counting is applied, one who is honest will see the discrepancy..

In 2014, the new moon for Abib was spotted on March 31st and, although, you and I differ on when a day begins, the daylight of April 1 would be a New Moon Day.
That is also called in scripture the first day of the month.
If we follow scripture, it says that the Lamb was to be killed ‘on the 14th Day, in the evening.

When we look at the 2014 pope Gregory calendar, April 1 being also Abib 1 is a coincidence that helps us see this much clearer..

So, if Torah is followed, Passover would be on the 14th day, it would have been on April 14 2014.

The pope Gregory calendar I have has that very thing..now, that is a Monday.
So Jews assembled on Monday April 14, which is the 14th day from the new moon that was seen at the sunset on March 31st 2014.

The next ‘day, would be the 15th but with your reckoning editor, the 15th day begins at the sunset so when everyone wakes up from that night, it will be the Sabbath commanded for the 15th day, as commanded in scripture..

For the record, I believe that in 2014 , passover was on April 14, which was also Abib 14, as scripture commands..

The problem comes when we apply the same ‘standard’ to the 2015 passover..

The new moon was spotted at sunset of march 21, 2015.
Again, the first ‘light’ of march 22nd, would be the new moon day and the first day of the month..

So, if March 22, Sunday, is the 1st day, we are at the 5th day of His month.. ( same standard used in 2014)
If we keep counting, tomorrow is the 6th, etc, we get to see the 10th day will fall on next Tuesday. If you are still with me, Wednesday April 1st I’ll be the 11th day of His month..
The problem comes when we get to Friday April 3rd... that is the 13th Day...
I see where it says Passover begins at sunset on that day..

Now, we could use your doctrine that a day begins in the evening and say that the evening of that 13th day is actually the 14th day but it places the previous year’s observance in question if the Lamb should be consumed on the 14th in the ‘evening’ ( which is technically the 13th for you) or the Lamb is to be consumwd on the 14th in the ‘evening’ (which could also be technically the 15th) for you like it was in 2014..

What a mess.... and I know why it is a mess...and I know why there are two different standards used in 2014 and 2015 for Passover,
Which would be embarassing if anyone called jews and those who say they are Jews but are not..

Normally people wouldn’t see the difference because people don’t ‘count’ their days in this day and age like they did in scripture..

But you have stumbled on somebody who does count.. and the template I found in that thing you call a comic book, His Word..

And jews wont see it.. Christians don’t care because they have their own false holy days..

Anybody who calls today Thor’s day and is a believer does themselves a great disservice to preparation for His Kingdom..

So, here is a question... was Passover on the 14th day, in the evening, in 2014 the correct observance or will the passover on the 13th day, in the evening, in 2015, be the correct one?

Because they both can’t be..
But people who live their lives full faith in false doctrines and reliance of rabbis, priests, popes, ministers or the secular world to tell you what Day it is, have little chance of even seeing this obvious error in worship of His Feasts..

And we are told those who worship the Father will worship in spirit and Truth..

If one of those passover is truth, one is not..
And it affects the work and worship life of lots of people..

I doubt your willing to test this yourself editor.. your rabbi will tell you when to observe the feasts.. and they will listen to Rome when the pope approved Jewish sabbath of Saturn’s day conflicts with His Feasts ( like it does this year)

Maybe Daniel talking about the Roman kingdom changing times and laws should be investigated a little more by believers..
Well, except for believers who call today Thor’s Day.. probably a very narrow path with few on there...

A tangled web rabbis weave when pope Gregory’s Saturn’s Day gets involved ( that wasn’t the case in 2014)


131 posted on 03/26/2015 4:37:54 PM PDT by delchiante
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