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To: ealgeone

Then what comes after 3:3?

3:5 “Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit.

I know of no Catholic that was not baptised by water AND THE SPIRIT!

They are “born again”, as evangelicals like to call it.

CCC:

1215 This sacrament is also called “the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit,” for it signifies and actually brings about the birth of water and the Spirit without which no one “can enter the kingdom of God.”7


46 posted on 03/01/2015 7:27:23 PM PST by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet
I know of no Catholic that was not baptised by water AND THE SPIRIT!

Well there's one on this board that sure chunked the idea of needing to be born again overboard for catholics.

The words used were "catholics don't need "born again" nonsensical stuff. We have the Holy Eucharist."

Suggest you post your reply to that poster. Sounds like they may be missing something.

51 posted on 03/01/2015 7:36:39 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: NKP_Vet
1215 This sacrament is also called “the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit,” for it signifies and actually brings about the birth of water and the Spirit without which no one “can enter the kingdom of God.”7

There's no water in that verse...Not the washing of water...It's the washing of regeneration...

56 posted on 03/01/2015 7:50:46 PM PST by Iscool
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To: NKP_Vet
The scripture of Yeshua's conversation with Nicodemus is pretty plain in context in John Chapter 3. Born of water is natural physical birth and born of Spirit is a Spiritual birth. Angels are thus prohibited from the redemption process, only the sons of Adam (all have sinned). The Spiritual birth is both the choice of a repentant sinner with the convicting work of the Holy Spirit and drawing of God the Father. At that moment the newly born again Christian's name is written in the Lamb's Book of Life, sealed by the Holy Spirit until the day of redemption or (the resurrection of the Just.
58 posted on 03/01/2015 7:53:30 PM PST by Stymee (Father of 8)
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