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To: RnMomof7

Hm. I don’t suppose you asked Dr. Scott Hahn, Steven Ray, Al Kresta, Jeff Cavins, et al., for their input into the idea?


3 posted on 03/02/2015 5:06:40 PM PST by paladinan (Rule #1: There is a God. Rule #2: It isn't you.)
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To: paladinan

This post is useless stuff. The author is no historian, scholar, and theologian. Just another individual choosing to change religions. There have been many who have reconverted back to the Catholic Church. In short, this is is just one person’s story who has not been properly grounded in Catholic theology. There is the Catholic Church and then there is every other Christian heresy under the sun from Jim Jones and David Koresh to the vapid musings of Billy Graham, and Joel Osteen


15 posted on 03/02/2015 6:08:47 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: paladinan
Hm. I don’t suppose you asked Dr. Scott Hahn, Steven Ray, Al Kresta, Jeff Cavins, et al., for their input into the idea?

I always find the fence hopping stories unproductive as everyone has someone to "show." This seems to be what the Mormons did a lot in the 70s and 80s.

When I find a good atheist to Christian testimony I usually post it here. Seeing someone totally lost in the world convicted by the Holy Spirit and brought to repentance and faith in Christ for their salvation is a powerful testimony.

23 posted on 03/02/2015 6:46:04 PM PST by redleghunter (He expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning Himself. Lk24)
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To: paladinan
Scott has figured out how to milk Rome for a "comfortable " living ...He is group leader on pilgrimages for 206 travel agency. He has his own page Dr. Scott pilgrimages $$$$$$$ from Catholics

“Scott Hahn who, by his own testimony, experienced a ‘miracle’ shortly after he began praying the rosary is now experiencing questions about his resume. Hahn testifies he joined the Catholic Church because of his experience with the rosary. He claims to have been a pastor of the Trinity Presbyterian Church before converting to Catholicism. We now find out from the Office of the Stated Clerk, headquarters for Presbyterian Church of America (PCA), that he was never an ordained pastor and that Trinity Presbyterian Church never existed. This was uncovered by Bob Bowrosen who directs a counter-cult ministry in New York called Mars Hill Ministries. A copy of this letter on PCA letterhead is available from PTG (Proclaiming the Gospel) to anyone sending a stamped self-addressed envelope.”

Proclaiming the Gospel also has an excellent website where you can also contact them: http://www.pro-gospel.org/

http://www.oocities.org/fcfc.geo/news98.htm

27 posted on 03/02/2015 6:58:12 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: paladinan; RnMomof7
Hm. I don’t suppose you asked Dr. Scott Hahn, Steven Ray, Al Kresta, Jeff Cavins, et al., for their input into the idea?

You understand that when you make that argument, you are actually reinforcing an evangelical/protestant perspective:
1 Corinthians 1:26-31  For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:  (27)  But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;  (28)  And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:  (29)  That no flesh should glory in his presence.  (30)  But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:  (31)  That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.
So if you are confounded by us foolish ones, hey, we're just doing our job! See, we expect to have people defecting from the faith.  There are plenty of prophecies to that effect, which I leave as an exercise to the reader.  Moreover, we expect to be the ones who in this life are looked down upon as foolish, undereducated, unsophisticated, etc.  It is the World System run by Satan that is our antagonist in this story, and that has always been his meme.  What did he tell our first parents, Adam and Eve?  That following the serpent would be the way of wisdom, enlightenment, etc.  It is far too simplistic to simply accept what God has said as the final authority.  No, we must mix and dilute that authority with the well-spun tales of would-be human overlords.  So it's perfectly within that meme for Satan to smear those faithful to Christ as foolish commoners.

But for my part, I am happy to be thought of as one of the dunderheads who lacks this world's wisdom.  According to what Paul told the Corinthians above, it puts me in pretty good company, and in the end it isn't what you know, but who you know that matters.  Jesus, that is. ;)

Peace,

SR

32 posted on 03/02/2015 7:24:25 PM PST by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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