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To: SeekAndFind
Everytime moral issues about homosexuality and “born this way” comes up, I always ask replace the word “homosexual” to “pedophile” and ask the same question he uses to challenge me just to see what his answer would be.

IOW, you always stack the deck - similar to the classic, "Have you stopped beating your wife?" conundrum.

I know some homosexuals who are not pedophiles or activists and who attend church regularly and worship Jesus - can you state that He does not value their worship as much as those without similar issues?

Besides, He has spoken and the world will disintegrate into a cesspool and 2/3 of the Jews will be killed off, and much else that is horrendous will take place before He comes back to set things right - when undertaking spiritual tasks/essays, should one focus on fixing what is broken or getting the broken ones in touch with their Savior via the Good News of the Gospels?

I really don't know, but my heart and instincts tell me that the Good News is more effective than "fix thyself".

14 posted on 03/15/2015 6:16:04 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb
I know some homosexuals who are not pedophiles or activists and who attend church regularly and worship Jesus - can you state that He does not value their worship as much as those without similar issues?

Both homosexual sex and child molestation are sinful acts. It is OK to be inclined towards WANTING to commit sin, as long as you do not SUBMIT to sin.

24 posted on 03/15/2015 6:55:44 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: trebb
can you state that He does not value their worship as much as those without similar issues?

Yes.

Consider the Biblical stories of Aninias and Sapphira, the man with his father's wife, and what Jesus said to do when you bring offerings with a grievance in your heart for God's demeanor toward those who confuse Him with Santa Claus.

39 posted on 03/15/2015 8:24:40 AM PDT by papertyger (I didn't leave my party: my party betrayed me.)
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To: trebb; SeekAndFind
Trebb, thanks for joining the discussion.

There's a difference between a person attracted to sin (which we all are) who nevertheless prays and seeks the Lord and tries, with Our Lord's help, to live a God-pleasing life, and a person who acts out on their disorder (whatever it is) and demands to have that accepted, celebrated and even blessed.

I have enough waywardness and self-deceptions to know that it's hard to truly accept the purifying fire of God's love. To live "in Christ" is to be between the hammer and the anvil, forged into an entirely new creature. But there is no safe place in the Universe except "in Christ."

43 posted on 03/15/2015 9:13:14 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves and each other, and all our life unto Christ our God." Liturgy of St.John)
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To: trebb

. What we have is a homosexual culture that is radically intolerant of Christian morality because it says what they do is immoral. But they have gone far beyond that and are promoting the idea that sex is all in the head, so to speak. Never mind what kind of body you have.


56 posted on 03/15/2015 1:42:26 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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