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To: papertyger

You sir don’t know what you are talking about and I say that based on extensive personal experience.

I am an alcoholic and I went into a 30 day program when I was twenty nine. I came out of treatment and never touched a drink for 18 years.I lived a wonderful sober life with my wife of 26 years and two beautiful twin boys (which were conceived shortly after I sobered up)

Four years ago I developed some coronary heart blockage issues and began a regimen of every healthy lifestyle change in the books to do to minimize the disease.

One of these was (2) 4 oz glasses of wine per day. I was convinced that after 18 years of sobriety I COULD control my behavior. I made a personaly committment to adhere to this rigidly. I was dead wrong. It worked for about two weeks. Within4 months I was drinking 1 1/2 bottles of wine a day and 6 months after that switched to Vodka (my old booze of choice).

After 2 years I had just about managed to lose my family, my business and my health was failing badly. I knew I was killing myself but at that point i was beyond caring.

Then a moment of clarity. With the help of a wonderful parish priest my Higher Power and some good old fashioned willpower. I managed to stop for a week and dry out. (it was horrible. I didn’t have the option for treatment this time because my business could not have survived me being away for 30 days.

I began going to AA again, working the steps and Thank God, have been sober now for going on 3 years.

My story is not atypical. I have seen many alcoholics over the years do exactly what I did and many of them did not straighten out. Lives destroyed or dead they thought too that they could control alcohol. It’s an arrogance that no alcoholic can survive.

I know I can never drink again and survive for I don’t believe I have another “sober struggle” left in me.

AA is not the Holy Grail of sobiety but it does work for a lot of people, some , not so much. But one thing is absolutely irrefutable and anyone who says different is either ignorant or has ulterior motives.... “if you are a true alcoholic you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT ever return to controlled drinking.....EVER.”


52 posted on 03/17/2015 10:42:09 AM PDT by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6

Apparently you don’t know what “non-disprovable” means.

Your “experience” is no more dispositive than my experience with breathing allows me to judge how long someone else can hold their breath.


59 posted on 03/17/2015 11:04:43 AM PDT by papertyger (I didn't leave my party: my party betrayed me.)
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