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To: Bellflower
Matthew 23:1-3 After this, Jesus addressed himself to the multitudes, and to his disciples; 2 The scribes and Pharisees, he said, have established themselves in the place from which Moses used to teach; 3 do what they tell you, then, continue to observe what they tell you, but do not imitate their actions, for they tell you one thing and do another.

Christ counseled obedience to authority and also maintained that all authority comes from God. Protestants have rebelled against God's Holy Church and rebellion does not come from God. It is true that salvation comes through Christ and yet Christ maintains that ALL will be judged according to their deeds. Many pay Him lip service and pay no heed to his teachings.

109 posted on 03/22/2015 8:38:37 PM PDT by TradicalRC (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus.)
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To: TradicalRC

When Jesus came He established a new order. Not one based on the law. Not one based on a place or building, and certainly not one based on a religious establishment of any kind. He based this new order on Spirit and truth. They that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and truth if they are to be the ones that Christ seeks.

Much of what Jesus taught was opposite of the old order which was passing away. He didn’t have this old order pass away to replace it with one of a kind.

His Kingdom is within us when we are His. It is Spirit and it is truth. This is the very thing that Christ preached and tried to get people to realize. He is The Kingdom. Each individual must come to Him that they might have life. The work of God is to believe.

Once one believes they act accordingly out of belief. Not out of loyalty to the Church (not even the real church, which is His body made of believers in Him) but out of faithfulness to Him, because they love Him, believe Him and above all else, trust Him. That is what faith is, not adherence to a particular Church or denomination. It is having a living faith in Jesus Christ that directs and shapes your life. There isn’t a dichotomy between faith and works, but works do not create faith, but rather true faith brings forth works. Those works are a privilege to partake in, but they do not and cannot save, for only Christ Himself, personally can save. Come to Him with a sincere heart and ask Him for salvation. He will once and for all time save you. Then you can begin to serve Him as a child of God, not because you hope somehow serving Him will cause you to become accepted by Him.

1 John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

2Thessalonians 2:13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

1 John 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.


115 posted on 03/27/2015 5:22:05 PM PDT by Bellflower (The LORD is Holy, separated from all sin, perfect, righteous, high and lifted up.)
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