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To: Gamecock
GameCock: this post is another 'journey' piece of a kind that you often post.

The main character narrative consists of one Protestant misconception after another joined together like beads on a string.

They're ... pretty samey. Read one and you've read them all, except for changes in voice and tense.

So I'll pick out one detail:

At no time in your life could you ever be certain of going to Heaven, as that was called the “sin of presumption”.

The two sins against Hope are Presumption and Despair.

We must NOT presume that we are saved. We must hope we are saved. Why would St Paul trouble to list Hope alongside Faith and Charity if we did not need to hope?

If Protestants truly believe that they will enter heaven simply because of the fact of their baptism - regardless of whether they sin or not, regardless of whether they repent or not, then this is very bad news.

Sin separates us from God. That's why it's called 'Sin' - for 'Sin' means absence, separation.

But we can sin after we've been baptised. Honest Protestants must admit as much.

This is why Christ gave His Church a remedy for sin - what we call today the sacrament of Reconciliation.

For if baptism made it unnecessary for our sins to be forgiven, then why did Christ say:

"If you forgive the sins of any, their sins have been forgiven them; if you retain the sins of any, they have been retained."


It's very late here so I am off to bed. May God keep us all, and bring us at last to our true home. Good night.

13 posted on 03/20/2015 3:35:40 PM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: agere_contra
If Protestants truly believe that they will enter heaven simply because of the fact of their baptism

We don't believe that! Actually we, Southern Baptists, believe that one is saved first, then follows our Lord in baptism. The baptism does not forgive our sins or grant us any special dispensation. It is a beautiful symbol of how we have died to sin, been buried with Christ, and now we are resurrected to a new life.

18 posted on 03/20/2015 4:54:45 PM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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