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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
Miracles like this, and others like this (the Shroud of Turin, the Tilma of Juan Diego) lead people to Christ.

Satan does not lead people to Christ. Therefore, this miracle can't be of demonic origin.

Nope, they don't...They lead people to a false christ which is your Catholic religion...Your religion claims as much, that the Catholic religion IS God...

And Satan is very happy to lead people to false religions...Especially his own religion...

72 posted on 03/22/2015 9:18:24 AM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool; St_Thomas_Aquinas
"Your religion claims as much, that the Catholic religion IS God..."

Iscool, I wish you could make your point, whatever it is, in a more accurate way, without falsehoods.

When you say things that aren't true, it tends to inhibit constructive conversation. It lack real heuristic value.

75 posted on 03/22/2015 9:27:47 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If they refuse to listen even to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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To: Iscool; Mrs. Don-o
Nope, they don't...They lead people to a false christ which is your Catholic religion...

This is an assertion.

Reasonable people are usually convinced by arguments and facts.

As a Protestant, you may not have studied the miraculous tilma of Juan Diego and the mass conversion of millions of Aztecs in the sixteenth century.

The missionaries were all but overwhelmed by the endless multitudes clamoring for instruction and Baptism. Almost everywhere they traveled, entire families would come running out of their village, entreating them with signs to come and pour the water on their heads. When the numbers grew too numerous to cope with individually, the missionaries formed the men and women into two columns behind a cross-bearer. As they filed past the first priest, he briefly imposed on each the Oil of Catechumens. Holding lighted candles and singing a hymn, they would then converge on a second priest who stood beside the baptismal font. The columns would slowly wind back to the first priest where, with hands joined, husbands and wives would pronounce their marriage vows together, receiving the Sacrament of Matrimony.

Several trustworthy contemporary writers note that one missionary, a Flemish Franciscan named Peter of Ghent, baptized with his own hands over 1,000,000 Mexicans! "Who will not recognize the Spirit of God in moving so many millions to enter the kingdom of Christ," wrote Fr. Anticoli, S.J., "and when we consider that there occurred no portent or other supernatural event ... to attract such multitudes, other than the apparitions of the Virgin, we may state with assurance that it was the Vision of the Queen of the Apostles that called the Indians to the Faith."

Does the devil inspire the desire for baptism?

As far as the Shroud goes, many skeptical, atheistic scientists who have studied it first hand, have converted.

84 posted on 03/22/2015 10:04:40 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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