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To: Seraphicaviary
Nor is it idolatrous, since we are not depending on Mary to save us.

Not so fast.... according to your CCC and thus, your church teaches, Mary is a mediatrix... and the CCC refers to her as a "bringer of salvation":

"969 "This motherhood of Mary in the order of grace continues uninterruptedly from the consent which she loyally gave at the Annunciation and which she sustained without wavering beneath the cross, until the eternal fulfillment of all the elect. Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation. . . . Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.""

Curious how you square that with:

Christ himself states in John 14:6:

"Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me."

...and,

in 1 Timothy 2:5:

" 5 For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus,"

So... how does this square? Seems to me the CCC is teaching something that goes directly against an essential of the faith: that no one comes to the Father except through Christ... and that there is ONE mediator between God and men... Christ; yet the CCC (and the church) teaches that Mary is a mediatrix... someone working with Christ to bring salvation and intercession.

Sounds heretical to me.

Somebody's got some 'splainin' to do.... Much ado about heresy.

Hoss

161 posted on 03/24/2015 1:12:10 PM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: HossB86

Mediatrix is not to place her on the same level as Christ. If you pray for me, then you are a mediator for me to Christ. Mary just does it on a wide scale. Her intercession is a great thing, but its absence is not an obstacle to salvation.

If you are going to use arguments from Catholic thought, then you need to use them as Catholics understand the words.


195 posted on 03/24/2015 2:06:27 PM PDT by Seraphicaviary (St. Michael is gearing up. The angels are on the ready line.)
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