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To: Dutchboy88
I can just imagine the "devastated" lamb as Jesus picks him up out of the thorns and muck and rocks and carries him back to the flock.

But happy lambs placed back on the right path, very very bad! Happy we must not have!

/s/ as if I needed it

54 posted on 03/25/2015 3:09:36 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Love rejoices not in evil, but rejoices in the truth." 1 Corinthians 13:6)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"I can just imagine the "devastated" lamb as Jesus picks him up out of the thorns and muck and rocks and carries him back to the flock.

But happy lambs placed back on the right path, very very bad! Happy we must not have!"

I suspect you can by now detect the differences in our hermeneutics. Once, some months ago, I sent you a description of the flow of the Biblical story line wherein Jesus' remarks are placed within the context of the Mosaic Law. You said you would mull it over, but I gathered you got busy. But, just as God the Father speaks to the Jews through Moses on the Mount, Jesus is speaking to the Jews in the so-called "Gospels". There is, incidentally, no such title in the original texts as "Gospel" (please feel free to check any credible Greek NT and you will see, "According to Matthew", "According to Mark"...etc.) The publishers have "helped" us by adding these titles.

The resultant error of assuming that Jesus is addressing us Gentiles is widespread (even among most evangelicals). But, clearly, Paul notes we were not grafted in until the blood was shed (Eph.2) and thus, the Message of Grace, the real incredible Good News of Jesus for us is NOT "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". That so-called Golden Rule is part of the Law (read the passage and its following sentence if you think I am making this up).

Almost all of the remarks Jesus makes are driving the Jews to reject Him and kill Him (Acts 2). They are not kindly little "lamb found in the rocks" remarks. He has come to divide mother from daughter, etc. He will separate the goats from the sheep, the wheat from the tares. He will save those, "...whom the Father has given Me." And, not a one will be lost.

By the time Paul (the apostle to us believing Gentiles) gives us the decoder ring on the Gospel, the message is not, "if your eye offends, tear it out..." (intended to devastate the Jews), but "if God has elect you, you are safe...and the result will be a fleeing from sin." (I recognize this is over a number of chapters in Romans, but it is there.) I also note that, just as salvation was always a gift of grace, described as far back as Abraham (Rom. 4), that there are no "sacraments" which confer grace...only God confers grace. And, He has mercy on whom He has mercy and He hardens whom He hardens (Rom. 9).

There is the Gospel, and it will seem unfair (Rom. 9). But, the good news is that God will do for his chosen what they cannot do for themselves...rescue them as a gift. And, it will make them break over their sin (I Cor.). If this is what Francis told them, well, good on him...he should leave the Vatican and come to Jesus, alone...if Jesus allows.

55 posted on 03/25/2015 3:34:31 PM PDT by Dutchboy88
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