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To: Dutchboy88
Your comments seem, excuse me, a little didcombobulated. Let's see if we can sort this out.

I didn't say God gave just "Rome" (in the Western jurisdictional sense) the authority to collect and codify the canon of Scriptures, if by that one would mean that one of the five Patriarchal sees (Rome) or even one man in Rome (the Pope) imposed this on all the other churches.

Rather take good note of what St. Jerome said about his final, 46-book OT Canon: "What sin have I committed if I follow the judgment of the churches?"(Against Rufinius 11:33, A.D. 401).

"The judgment of the churches." That means he was going beyond his own individual opinion, going beyond the rabbinical opinion of rabbis who didn't believe in Christ, and going instead with the consensus of the churches who had received the Scriptures from the Apostles, and from the successors of the Apostles, for their liturgical proclamation.

In other words, Jerome could go forward with (1) his own opinion, (2) the opinion of the Christ-denying rabbis and their councils, or (3) the actual practice of the Christian churches and their councils.

He could choose his own self, the Pharisaical-rabbinical tradition, or the Christian tradition. He went with the Christian tradition. That was the ultimate source of the canon --- that, and the Holy Spirit.

Christ said (John 16:13) "When the Spirit of truth, is come, he will teach you all truth." Christ, through the Holy Spirit, is protecting and teaching the Church.

I rest my case.

73 posted on 03/26/2015 9:39:10 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Love rejoices not in evil, but rejoices in the truth." 1 Corinthians 13:6)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"Your comments seem, excuse me, a little didcombobulated. Let's see if we can sort this out...I rest my case."

The point of our discussion began as a woman who was discharged for making disparaging remarks against homos. The guy who discharged her was an RC honcho (I forget whether he was Cardinal, a Bluebird, or a buzzard). But, I noted that your "pope" had lunch with homos so the RC org seemed to support her discharge...she clearly is out of step with Rome. You defended the "pope" because he behaved like Jesus and the little lambs.

Now, we are all the way to you defending traditions because your organization has its authority in the Scriptures, but you denounced Sola Scriptura. Can you not see that your cult has built its own support upon the Scriptures that it will not permit to speak? Rome's doctrines, by your own admission, looks to traditions as freely as the Scriptures, which provides absolutely no connection to the Truth. The Scriptures tell us that they are "adequate for all". But, your gang says, Oh no, we have the authority to ADD JUNK!. It says so right there in the Scriptures. Oh, and in all of our other books that we wrote and said we get the authority because we wrote them and we said it. Circularity? Discombobulated? Stand back, take a deep breath and look at Rome...it is a self-styled, home made religion of monumental proportion.

75 posted on 03/26/2015 10:07:32 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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