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To: knarf
“God didn’t ask her permission”

Wouldn’t that be considered rape?

7 posted on 03/26/2015 3:33:19 AM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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To: BigCinBigD
Wouldn’t that be considered rape?

Only if she said no and tried to fight off the Holy Spirit...

28 posted on 03/26/2015 4:59:04 AM PDT by Iscool
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Only if they had sex.

But if it’s considered rape because God didn’t ask permission, then if God did ask permission, and Mary, being betrothed to Joseph, gave assent to consensual relations with someone other than her husband, than that makes her an adulterous.


36 posted on 03/26/2015 5:49:14 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: BigCinBigD

There was no sexual intercourse involved.

Besides, do we consider it “rape” when a farmer artificially inseminates a cow without asking her permission?


83 posted on 03/26/2015 10:12:41 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: BigCinBigD; knarf; Iscool; metmom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; ...
God didn’t ask her permission

Wouldn’t that be considered rape?

Which is what atheists charge, such as i countered a while ago on Salon. However, in reality not only did God engage in the violence and anguish of rape, but Mary did indeed consent to what seemed to be a supernatural kind of In Vitro Fertilization.

For the typical longing of a Jewish women was not only to be the mother of children, but to be the mother of the promised Messiah. And thus Mary's response to being told she would be that mother was not, "why are You doing this to me," but "how" this would be possible.

And the magnificent Magnificat of the Mary of Scripture (not to be confused with the demigoddess of Rome ) clearly affirms that she welcomed this Divine supernatural nonviolent impregnation.

And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. For he that is mighty hath done to me great things; and holy is his name. (Luke 1:46-49)

Yet your query is also a worthy theological question. If i may digress, even if God had given Mary no choice, is it murder when God takes the life of an infant? No, as the reason murder is evil is because it ultimately is detrimental, as man is not omniscient or almighty, so that he will assuredly always make it work out for good.

In this case He saves a child from the possibility of doing evil himself, and of damnation (even though valid purposes mankind must be able to choice btwn good and evil).

And God makes all things - including the sorrow of parents over a lost child - to work out for the good of those who love God and Good. (Rm. 8:28)

And if a doctor knew that In Vitro Fertilization would result in a blessing to the mother and to the world, and did so though she objected, then it would make the charge of rape to have a radically different connotation. But man does not have that right, as he is not the almighty omniscient Creator and Author of life, and we cannot trust that man has or will always have good will or foresight.

200 posted on 03/26/2015 9:04:04 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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