Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

To: imardmd1

My Bible tells me that Adam and Eve were designed to live forever, and that there was no death before the fall.


Yes, but:

Genesis 2:17
“...but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

They did. And just as sin entered the world, condemning all to death, Jesus entered the world and offered himself as the perfect Sacrifice for that sin so that all who call on him will be saved from that death.

This is talking about the second death. Everyone dies in the flesh (with a couple of notable OT exceptions).


202 posted on 03/27/2015 9:45:49 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 200 | View Replies ]


To: cuban leaf
Yes, but.

I'm not sure what this "but" is about, but my reasoning goes back to Post #57:

What it means to me is that Mary conceived a son via her egg being fertilized directly by the spirit of God.

which was somehow related to herself having been conceived immaculately. And that is a logical artifice of Romanists ducking the issue of Mary's own seed bearing the essence and stain of original sin, and instead inventing the concept that God fixed it at her own conception by somehow pouring on grace in a way not given to any other descendant of our federal heads, Adam and Eve, to obtain a sinless host from whom Jesus would be formed.

Then your supposition is that somehow the Holy Spirit fertilized Eve's egg (supposedly without original sin?). With what? Eve could at best only supply a haploid cell, and that could never produce masculine characteristics in the child-to-be. So where did the mating haploid cell with the Y chromosome come from? And was it, or was it not formed from a masculine repository of Y chromosomes, some male flesh, somewhere?

And why, if the mechanism of Mary's putative gracious immaculate conception from her father's and mother's seed(s) was real, why did Joseph have to be cut out of the picture? Why could God not have just gracified Mary's egg fertilized by Joseph's sperm to make it a good and sufficient source of a sin-free body receptacle for The Son of God' Spirit to occupy?

Well, this is all about the Romanist philosophers' Aristotlean "rational" solution to this spiritual conundrum at a time in history when they had no knowledge of the biochemistry of meiosis, mitosis, Y and X chromosomes, spermatozoas, oogenesis, recombinant DNA theory, nor of surrogate child-bearing of an baby not of the surrogate's own flesh; and when they simply did not have the humility and grace to just say, "I don't know," and meekly accept the Gospel story as it was presented, trusting in God's Word and not in their own intellectual powers to faithfully retell it.

In your reply I didn't see an answer to the issues I mentioned, and about which you previously asked.

212 posted on 03/27/2015 12:10:57 PM PDT by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 202 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson