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To: Heart-Rest
Changing the subject again, eh? (By the way, the written record for Christianity came from the Catholic Church, as God chose to have it.

Whoa....hold on there....did it come from God or the catholic church? Your statement is a bit vague.

You will never hear Christians make this claim. We know that it was God moving men through the Holy Spirit to write the Word and to give us the Word.

But let's pretend for discussion sake your statement is correct.....interesting no books were included on the subject of mary as how the catholic church understands her.

The roman catholic church had another chance at Trent to include these books with the false teachings of mary, but chose not to. That is telling.

If you have a problem with that sovereign choice, take it up with God.) Goodnight to all.

Nope....just trying to address your questions. If that's changing the subject in catholicism's world so be it.

35 posted on 03/29/2015 8:05:52 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

All of the Marian dogmata are in Scripture as it currently stands. No “extra books” are necessary. You simply aren’t reading or understanding Scripture correctly.


37 posted on 03/29/2015 9:11:36 PM PDT by Campion
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To: ealgeone
me in post # 34:  "(By the way, the written record for Christianity came from the Catholic Church, as God chose.)"

you (ealgeone) in post # 35:  "Whoa....hold on there....did it come from God or the catholic church? Your statement is a bit vague."

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Your post makes no logical sense.

Did you come from your mother?

Did you come from God?

If the answer to the first question is "yes" (which it is), that does not mean that the answer to the second question is "no" (which would be false). You came from your mother, and you came from God.

The same holds true for the "written record for Christianity". It came from God, and it came from the Catholic Church, just as God willed. Each of those assertions is true, and they are not mutually exclusive, just like "your life came from your mother", and "your life came from God" are both true, and are by no means mutually exclusive.

To refresh your memory, what we were talking about in post #14:, post #21:, and post #32:, was your totally baseless and unknowable claim in post #6:, that "Paul never asked Mary what to do....nor did Peter, James, Luke, Matthew, Timothy, Stephen, etc, etc, etc.", so you just abandoned that subject completely in post #33:, and jumped to a totally new subject. (That was what I meant when I spoke of you "changing the subject again".)

Does the Bible record all the prayers (morning prayers, evening prayers, meal blessings, etc.) that Paul, Peter, James, Luke, Matthew, Timothy, Stephen, (etc.), prayed to God, and the content of those prayers? (To save time, I'll provide the answer to that question, which of course, is no.) Does that mean those folks never prayed, or that they never asked God for anything in their prayers, just because the Bible does not say a peep about all those prayers?

Those folks asked God for many things in their prayers, and even though most of those prayers were not recorded in the Bible, those prayers really happened, and those prayers were very important, even though they were not written about in the Scriptures.

97 posted on 03/30/2015 7:59:31 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("I have set before you life and death, blessing and curse; therefore choose life." - Deut. 30:19)
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