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To: Mrs. Don-o
If it literally means dedicating oneself "entirely" to Mary without limit and without acknowledgment that Mary is a handmaid of the Lord Whom we both serve, this would, on the face of it, be "totalizing" or "divinizing" Mary.

But it's good if you (all) partially dedicate yourselves to and partially serve Mary...And you are partially 'divinizing' Mary??? I don't think that's what God had in mind...

Isa 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Isa 48:11 For mine own sake, even for mine own sake, will I do it: for how should my name be polluted? and I will not give my glory unto another.

1Co_4:6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another.

867 posted on 04/14/2015 12:07:12 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool; FourtySeven; verga
"But it's good if you (all) partially dedicate yourselves to and partially serve Mary...And you are partially 'divinizing' Mary??? I don't think that's what God had in mind..."

Right you are, iscool--- that's not what anybody has in mind.

This stuff isn't "partial divinizing": nobody is "partially divinizing" Mary. It's honor and veneration, as in "Honor Thy Father And Thy Mother," a commandment which Jesus observed in practice, and which we, her other offspring (Rev. 12:17) also observe in practice.

You quoted verses about God not giving His glory to another, but then what are we to make of this? St. Paul says (Romans 2:6, 10), "God will repay everyone according to his works: eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good work,... there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, Jew first and then Greek."

This is not stealing glory from God, but rather God's freedom to give glory to those on whom His favor rests. This is a derivative glory, like the light of the moon, which is not independent, but beautifully reflects the light of the sun.

It's also a matter of inheriting glory as joint heirs with Christ:

(Romans 8:16-18):
The Spirit itself bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God,
and if children, then heirs,
heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ
if only we suffer with him
so that we may also be glorified with him.

I consider that the sufferings of this present time
are as nothing
compared with the glory to be revealed for us."

(Romans 8:30) And those he predestined he also called; and those he called he also justified; and those he justified he also glorified.

This is what we are taking about. About all believers

Since Jesus was predestined to be the firstborn of many brothers, Mary was therefore predestined to be the spiritual mother of many offspring (Revelation 12:17) --- have a good look at that chapter of Revelation, for she and we her "many offspring" are still, as you will notice, enemies of the Serpent.

There's a lot there. THIS is what God has in mind.

875 posted on 04/14/2015 5:18:25 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stand firm and hold to the traditions you were taught, whether by word of mouth or by letter from us)
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